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2nd USA oil wave will bankrupt OPEC (SIAP)

Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:24 pm
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U.S. crude oil prices have plunged by 11 percent over the last two days to a low of $50 a barrel before settling at $52. The mainstream-media blames the fall in prices on the turmoil in China and Greece, but the real driver is the outbreak of discounting by U.S. oil-rig operators.

The resulting fall in the average U.S. “break-even” cost necessary to sustain domestic oil production is now around $32 per barrel. America’s new hyper-competitive cost structure has launched a second wave of an oil boom that threatens to bankrupt OPEC.


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But to OPEC’s shock, U.S. oil production, rather than falling from 8.6 million barrels a day (bpd), actually rose by April to 9.7 million bpd. OPEC’s exports of Middle East “light sweet crude” to U.S. refineries on the Gulf Coast decreased by 45%,

IHS CERA business analysts attribute the continued U.S. production momentum to the cost of oil production dropping by 32 percent in the U.S. as drilling and service vendors have slashed prices to stay busy.

The U.S. “fully burdened exploration and production “break-even” cost is now $51 per barrel, and falling fast. Furthermore, with hundreds of American oil companies having already paid the exploration lease acquisition costs to accumulate tens of thousands of drilling sites, the production-only break-even cost for positive cash-flow is about $29 a barrel. After tacking on a 9 percent profit, U.S. domestic oil companies are now incentivized to produce domestic oil any time the price is above $32 a barrel.
Sorry I forgot the link
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted by RJL2
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:25 pm to
Link?

ETA: thanks
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:26 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:25 pm to
Some of the OPEC countries will fare far better than Russia. Many of them have been wise enough to invest their profits in more diverse sectors, though that is not to say they won't feel the hurt whatsoever.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:26 pm to
Link?

Nvm
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:29 pm to
Good, their plan is backfiring
Posted by cbi8
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:34 pm to
Yeah, everybody talks about how cheap OPEC can produce a barrel, but that's not the point.

They have to sell it a certain amount to meet their budget. That's all they have to support their weak-minded populace.

Oh yeah, eff Russia, too.

Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:34 pm to
Can someone explain what all this means as if I am a 12 year old?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:34 pm to
Also lol

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Libya is the highest at $184 a barrel.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:37 pm to
There's still a pretty big backlog on completions around the US from what I know (I'm not an engineer) so I would be interested to know how many domestic producers are truly comfortable producing at $32 oil like the article says
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain what all this means as if I am a 12 year old?


OPEC countries (ie. Russia and Iran) have oil accouting for upto 75% of their budgets. They need to sell the oil for $100 (Russia) or ~$110 (Iran), based on numbers from countless threads on the politcal board, to balance their national budgets. The US private companies can produce it for $32 and break even (according to the article). I have no idea if the numbers are right that is why I posted the article so that hopefully some posters in the industry could inform us.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

There's still a pretty big backlog on completions around the US from what I know (I'm not an engineer) so I would be interested to know how many domestic producers are truly comfortable producing at $32 oil like the article says


I'm sure someone actually knowledgeable and a member of the industry will supply us with the information, but I imagine that figure only applies to traditional means of extraction. I have a hard time believing that shale sands could be profitable at that figure.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain what all this means as if I am a 12 year old?

Glad I'm not the only one
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain what all this means as if I am a 12 year old?


OPEC controlled much oil production and dictated prices as a monopoly cartel. US production turned the tables on them and now that the US is catching up on the cost side, OPEC nations which rely on royalties to fund their governments are getting squeezed on both ends.

ETA: This should serve as a giant F YOU to the idiots who said you "can't drill your way out of this mess." Looking at you, Obama.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain what all this means as if I am a 12 year old?

USA: Secured pricing for drilling prior to oil drop -> decreases expenses to produce oil -> US producing more oil than previously expected -> able to generate profits at a lower price due to lower expenses

OPEC: hoped that US would only surge oil into the market and back off due to supply/demand, and oil prices would rise -> opposite is happening -> OPEC "demands" higher oil prices to support budget (and to prop up their economy since most of the countries are HEAVILY dependent on exporting oil - Russia, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc.) -> continued low oil prices mean BIG BIG losses for already cash poor OPEC countries (besides the Saudis).
Posted by X123F45
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:41 pm to
It means the brown hands may find themselves unable to buy new turbans.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:45 pm to
Serious question -

If oil is that important to countries like Russia and Iran (among others) and the US is making moves to pretty much strip away their economy, would they be likely to attempt to launch an offensive against the US to recoop their business?
Posted by undrafted
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:46 pm to
I hate when people try to just name a break even price. It varies so greatly depending on so many things like geographic region, geologic formation, drilling methods, company structure, etc.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Serious question -

If oil is that important to countries like Russia and Iran (among others) and the US is making moves to pretty much strip away their economy, would they be likely to attempt to launch an offensive against the US to recoop their business?


Unlikely. In terms of geopolitics, it means the US can bend them to its foreign policy will. This bullshite nuke agreement with Iran, well let's just say the US will get many more concessions. Russia's agitation, not going to be going on because they won't have the cash to saber rattle.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63769 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:48 pm to
Yeah I have never understood how it can be boiled down to one singular price
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