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re: 25% of the LA school budget goes to pensions.

Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:52 pm to
I just looked at their retirement rolls, and didn't see your name anywhere.

A) You had that option available to you, and declined.

B) It's the type of job that without benefits like that, you could not afford the employees that you would require.

C) The state would be all private schools, and your post today would be about the insane cost of sending your kid to a decent school.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23168 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:04 pm to
The pension incentives teachers who are dying to leave for other careers to stick it out ten years more than they want to.

Give them double matched 401k retirement and even a better salary. Everyone wins, state saves money long term.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11924 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:21 pm to
Nobody ever remembers that Bobby Jindal tried to do this. It is a better deal for the state to do pensions than it would be for the state to put in it's share of social security.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12253 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:45 pm to
I wouldn’t teach in a public Baton Rouge school for 300,000$ a year.

Posted by GabeK
Somewhere you never been
Member since Oct 2021
64 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:46 pm to
Everyone acts like state employees are getting rich off their pension. My wife is not a teacher but she is a state employee. Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month after taxes and insurance. Good thing she has 3 additional years of service she can add which will put it at about 7500.00 per month
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261454 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month

For being idle.

That's why many are underfunded or unfunded. There are faar more pressing things to a government than pay idle people.

I figure they'll come after other peoples 401k and take it to replenish pensions. It will happen.

This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10463 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:12 pm to
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What a sweet gig it is to work 6 months a year for a few decades and get that fat check and cadillac healthcare.



Then do it
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

For being idle.

That's why many are underfunded or unfunded. There are faar more pressing things to a government than pay idle people.


Who's gonna be idle?

You do realize they pay more into their pension than you pay into social security!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261454 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Who's gonna be idle?


Are they working for that paycheck at the present?

Pensions are too easy targets for governments. THey'll rob the retiree to pay the current teachers.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:57 pm to
No joke Louisiana needs teachers, quality pending
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68415 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

My wife is not a teacher but she is a state employee. Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month after taxes and insurance
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34328 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:31 pm to
Teachers no longer pay into the retirement fund once they retire.

Iirc, it is 6.5% of their salary.

I say that should still be paid.

Ditto state employees.

FWIW, this would not benefit me personally, but I believe it the right thing to do.

To make things more palatable for those retirees (on a fixed retirement income), I would add .5% per year for 15 years.

For those stating to do what I suggest all at once, Each % is roughly 35 bucks a month for most. That doesn’t sound like much, but it is about $400 per year. All 6.5% at once, that is over 5 grand. With inflation, it would be asking too much imho.

However, 35 bucks per month, per state retiree, would add up quickly. Multiply that over 15 years and it would benefit the state in terms of balancing the budget.

Just my .02.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56101 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:49 pm to
It is all a matter of what the market will bear….cut out the pension and you would have to pay them 25% more salary to get anyone to do that job….
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7850 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:50 pm to
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7500.00 per month


After taxes and insurance. 90k post taxes and insurance.

Hell of a retirement.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120387 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month after taxes and insurance.


Is this a joke? 6800 for sitting at home?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34328 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Everyone acts like state employees are getting rich off their pension. My wife is not a teacher but she is a state employee. Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month after taxes and insurance. Good thing she has 3 additional years of service she can add which will put it at about 7500.00 per month


This isn’t in Louisiana.
Posted by GabeK
Somewhere you never been
Member since Oct 2021
64 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:03 pm to
No it's not a joke. It's based on salary and years of employment.

State employees pay 7.5% minimum if you started before 2006, 8% of you started after 2006
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48750 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Everyone acts like state employees are getting rich off their pension. My wife is not a teacher but she is a state employee. Her pension will only pay her 6800.00 per month after taxes and insurance. Good thing she has 3 additional years of service she can add which will put it at about 7500.00 per month

Hell sign me up for this and I'd imagine that I make more than most state employees
Posted by GabeK
Somewhere you never been
Member since Oct 2021
64 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:17 pm to
Yes Jimmy it's in Louisiana
Posted by CasualBystander
Member since Apr 2019
154 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:19 pm to
That 25% goes to fund pension debt the legislature underfunded for decades. It’s the UAL. In most states, the debt is booked at the state level, not at the school system level. In 2027-28, the UAL is retired. The legislature will then have $1.7 billion in surplus.
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