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Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:04 am to lsu2006
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But I'm not sure that tactic works against a nebulous, ideologically-driven entity like ISIS and it certainly serves to fuel extremism and can exacerbate the problem
No, you can absolutely kill that ideology. You've got to be even more barbaric than them, you've got to show them that we're willing and able to kill every last one of them.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:05 am to beerJeep
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The free flow of information does make it easier for the leaders of these groups to reach the disenfranchised. It allows them to spread their message worldwide.
It allows the new leader to immediately pick up where the old leader left off, whether they are a mile away or across the globe.
Right. I agree.
So why not use this to combat the ideology? Reach the kids or disenfranchised before the crazy uncle does?
What we have been obviously doing isn't working, so why don't we try other methods?
The final solution is crushing the entire ideology, not just specific groups.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:06 am to beerJeep
All we have to do is stop letting them in. Once that is done try to root out as many of the bad apples as possible. Shut the damn borders to Muslim countries.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:07 am to TigerBait1971
[img]22 confirmed dead in explosion at the Ariana Grandé concert in UK
Nobody knows how to fix this.
These goat fricking cockroaches have been fricking up shite for centuries and they keep shitting out little goat fricking cockroaches to keep the train rolling...
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I know how to fix it but it wouldn't be popular.
Nobody knows how to fix this.
These goat fricking cockroaches have been fricking up shite for centuries and they keep shitting out little goat fricking cockroaches to keep the train rolling...
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I know how to fix it but it wouldn't be popular.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:07 am to Salmon
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I know people want him to be an immigrant so they can push political narratives, but to me, a citizen turning is far more frightening
It's 6 of one half a dozen of the other. He's ISIS. His name isn't John or Mark either. When I see white bread James, Tyrone, or Jose screaming Aloha snackbar and then blowing themselves up that's when the worm turns.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:07 am to Salmon
I just read the FB page of one of the tour's crew members. They were about to start loading out when the bomb went off. None of them were hurt.
They have been moved to London and are awaiting permission to return to Manchester to load the gear out.
There were no comments about the tour continuing or about anybody's mental state.
They have been moved to London and are awaiting permission to return to Manchester to load the gear out.
There were no comments about the tour continuing or about anybody's mental state.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:08 am to jdeval1
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All we have to do is stop letting them in. Once that is done try to root out as many of the bad apples as possible. Shut the damn borders to Muslim countries.
While I agree that stopping them from coming in is better than nothing, it does little to address the fact that many attackers are/were radicalized citizens.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:08 am to BOSCEAUX
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It's 6 of one half a dozen of the other. He's ISIS. His name isn't John or Mark either. When I see white bread James, Tyrone, or Jose screaming Aloha snackbar and then blowing themselves up that's when the worm turns.
I have no idea what you just said
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:09 am to RollTide1987
You can't win a war against a religion with over a billion followers. Islamist groups like ISIS, you can target them and inflict damage, but you can't bomb an ideal away.
The best course of action would be for every nation that has had enough of these frickers to build walls, secure borders, and issue travel bans against the entire Islamic religion. That is the only way to prevent/severely limit their opportunities to inflict mass casualties.
As has been stated before, Islam is not compatible with Western culture. They will not stop. But every year that passes, more and more "tolerant" snowflakes reach voting age, so if we are going to pass laws that prevent these people from getting here, we have to do it now.
Kick them out of every Westernized country. Force them to retreat to the desert wastelands of Syria and Iran, and let the citizens of those countries deal with them.
The best course of action would be for every nation that has had enough of these frickers to build walls, secure borders, and issue travel bans against the entire Islamic religion. That is the only way to prevent/severely limit their opportunities to inflict mass casualties.
As has been stated before, Islam is not compatible with Western culture. They will not stop. But every year that passes, more and more "tolerant" snowflakes reach voting age, so if we are going to pass laws that prevent these people from getting here, we have to do it now.
Kick them out of every Westernized country. Force them to retreat to the desert wastelands of Syria and Iran, and let the citizens of those countries deal with them.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:10 am to Salmon
quote:him being a citizen shouldnt be a surprise or frightening. There are large amounts of foreigners in england that are not assimilating into the culture.
we don't know yet
I know people want him to be an immigrant so they can push political narratives, but to me, a citizen turning is far more frightening
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:12 am to Salmon
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if that were true, we would all be dead
So called moderates are not practicing Muslims. They don't have to be radical to be non moderate. The majority of Muslims silently support jihad.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:12 am to diat150
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him being a citizen shouldnt be a surprise or frightening. There are large amounts of foreigners in england that are not assimilating into the culture.
Yes. I'm aware.
Him being citizen is more frightening because we have more control over immigration. We have less control over citizens and the information they receive.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:14 am to BOSCEAUX
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So called moderates are not practicing Muslims. They don't have to be radical to be non moderate. The majority of Muslims silently support jihad.
:sigh:
I hate these semantic games.
Whatever you want to call the "modern Muslim" that only prays when his parents come around or eats pork or whatever. Those people, the ones that still identify as Muslims, need to step the frick up if they care about their culture and/or heritage.
There are more of these people than the ones that support jihad.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:17 am to Salmon
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It's 6 of one half a dozen of the other. He's ISIS. His name isn't John or Mark either. When I see white bread James, Tyrone, or Jose screaming Aloha snackbar and then blowing themselves up that's when the worm turns.
I have no idea what you just said
Basically saying it doesn't matter if he's a immigrant or not, he's Muslim and a member of ISIS. I'll be truly worried if "true" locals start doing this. People in America named John, Tyrone, or Jose..not Muhammad.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:17 am to BOSCEAUX
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So called moderates are not practicing Muslims. They don't have to be radical to be non moderate. The majority of Muslims silently support jihad.
Yawn
I'm white and Catholic, let me tell you what it means to be a real Muslim
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:18 am to Hangit
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There were no comments about the tour continuing or about anybody's mental state.
Thanks for this, I'm sure this is what most people are waiting to hear.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:21 am to Salmon
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Posted by Salmon online on 5/23/17 at 8:14 am to BOSCEAUX quote: So called moderates are not practicing Muslims. They don't have to be radical to be non moderate. The majority of Muslims silently support jihad. :sigh: I hate these semantic games. Whatever you want to call the "modern Muslim" that only prays when his parents come around or eats pork or whatever. Those people, the ones that still identify as Muslims, need to step the frick up if they care about their culture and/or heritage. There are more of these people than the ones that support jihad.
You mean like the younger Tsarnaev brother from the Boston marathon bombings? The one who went to Dartmouth, sold pot, and was basically just a normal college student?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 8:21 am to Salmon
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There are more of these people than the ones that support jihad.
Wrong. I wish i had a link but I don't. I saw a few polls right after the Orlando bombing and close to 70% supported jihad in some form.
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