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re: 1969 is the greatest model year in American car history

Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Nono
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:46 pm to
Big fan of the AMX 3.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:47 pm to
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And the El Camino SS



Thats A badass machine right there.................
Posted by JoePepitone
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Chevelle SS
I had that exact Chevelle SS. Black, 396 V8, 4 on the floor, no A/C. My BIL had the ‘69 Roadrunner in orange.
Posted by Traveler
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:50 pm to
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 3:57 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:51 pm to
No El Camino ? C'mon
Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:55 pm to
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Stupid Question but why don’t they make cars like this anymore? Also is it just the look or were the engines on these cars better then?


Two gasoline shortages in the 70's. Automobile manufacturers were mandated to build more energy-efficient vehicles after that.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:00 pm to
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By the way, what's the best way to get a premium price on an all original 69 that is a well maintained, sunny day driver type condition car?


Move to Arizona, tons of those vintage muscle cars on the streets and come on and off the market. About eight yrs ago I picked up this GTO when it failed to meet the reserve at the Barrett-Jackson car auction. I exchanged #'s with the seller during the auction and when it failed to meet reserve I called him and low-balled him. He accepted my offer instead of throwing it back on a truck and shipping it back to Oregon. If it went on the block both the buyer and the seller have to pay the auction house 10%, which is a rip-off. Win/win for both of us.


This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:06 pm to
1969 Dodge Daytona


1969 Road Runner


1969 Cadillac Deville Convertible






Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:09 pm to
The only value cars from that era have is nostalgia, today’s muscle cars blow all of them away in every performance measurement, and do it getting 25MPG,
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Stupid Question but why don’t they make cars like this anymore?


Tons of reasons. Fuel economy and safety being the biggest.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:11 pm to
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That '69 GTO Judge in Racing Red (although it was actually orange) was the first car I ever owned.


One of my uncles drove the GTO, the other had a Chevelle, my dad drove the Camaro.

My grandmother said she walked the floors every night when those three were tearing up the roads.
Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:13 pm to
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The only value cars from that era have is nostalgia


Without a doubt, and that nostalgia is pretty powerful. That's why restomods are very popular- you get the looks of a vintage car with some current engineering.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:17 pm to
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AZBadgerFan
That's a badass ride.
Posted by ThirdGeneration
Huntsville, Al
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:21 pm to
Stupid answer is they can't. There were almost no federal reg's (only seatbelts) so they could do anything they wanted. And 1969/70 meant massive HP in a car. There were no crash regulations so the entire front of the car could be the engine. No emissions so you could design the engine with large compression ratios and only worry about getting exhaust out. What killed the muscle car was the same as what helped it to grow. Gas was around 20 cents (yep $0.20) gallon so 8mpg was fine. OPEC raised prices to around 75 cents and suddenly filling up made people look for cheaper alternatives. Plus insurance companies got tired of a high school kid having 400 HP and raised rates all over the place. Engines were not better than today - fuel injection rules over carb's. Today designers are guided by mpg at all cost. So no more chrome (heavy) bumpers makes every car look about the same. Manufacturing only produces a few models since all models have to be crash tested. Back then the charger had at least 4 different engines from 6 cylinder to hemi. Plus you could easily order what you wanted - big engine with air conditioning and manual transmission and a vinyl top. No problem. Even if the engine was not officially offered some dealers found a way (Yenko COPO). Just my $0.02.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:21 pm to
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About 3500.00 or so.


I bought a 1972 LTD in the mid 90s. The car was in great shape, and had all the paperwork in the glove compartment. Brand new, it was a little under $4900. It weighed 5500 pounds.
Less than a dollar a pound.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:22 pm to
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The only value cars from that era have is nostalgia, today’s muscle cars blow all of them away in every performance measurement, and do it getting 25MPG

Including handling. You haven't lived until you've aggressively driven an 18-feet long, 5000-pound car without power steering or traction control.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:23 pm to
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Oldsmobile 442


I've always liked these and the GTO.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:25 pm to
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I bought a 1972 LTD in the mid 90s.


Was it a wagon?

Do you have pictures? I have a soft spot for all of the Country Squires made before 1978.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Was it a wagon?


Four door sedan. 351 Windsor, which was the 'economy' engine back then. Huuuge trunk. Back seat more than suitable for making babies.
Posted by JoePepitone
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Oldsmobile 442
I played HS baseball with a guy who had a 442. His dad owned the local NAPA store and that was a good thing because that car took more than its fair share of abuse.
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