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re: 150 plus armed militia takes over Oregon federal building (story developing)

Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:24 pm to
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No they're not. The Bundy ranch is in Nevada. This is happening in Oregon. These are all a bunch of "militia" (read: Sovereign Citizens) that get hard ons from guns and wearing camo. I would bet money that at least half of them were turned down for service in the military. The other half were too cowardly to actually enlist so they play dress up instead









You really don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4431 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:42 pm to
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I would bet money that at least half of them were turned down for service in the military. The other half were too cowardly to actually enlist so they play dress up instead.


Id be willing to bet the total opposite.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120028 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:59 pm to
Apparently I need to read up on my news before responding to comments in a news related thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295434 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:08 pm to
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No one said they were the same. Thugs don't only do what you stated. But you keep making excuses for these armed thugs.


The thugs carry federal ID's. Federal land management is horrible, they've been bullying people in the West for decades.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133252 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:10 pm to
The thugs in this case are the gov't jackboots.

Although they are likely white too so it's okay for you to hate them.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37758 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

The thugs carry federal ID's. Federal land management is horrible, they've been bullying people in the West for decades.

More excuses.
And when black people say this about police?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295434 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:13 pm to
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More excuses.


Wut?

quote:



And when black people say this about police?


I agree with them much of the time. You're just a dumbass who thinks there are two firm camps. You can't see past your ideology

This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133252 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:14 pm to
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And when black people say this about police?


All black people? I love how it's a generalization when you do it but if anyone else does it it's racist.

All black people aren't the same.


But yes, sometimes cops are thugs with badges. The fed gov is the biggest gang around.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65052 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:33 pm to
Not making excuses but he right in some sense. They limit the land for cattle which really raises prices for beef. The government is pretty shitty in this regard but these guys are stupid for the way they handle their issues with gov.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27884 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:35 pm to
I appreciate the point you're trying to make, but I also think the majority of people here would like to see these idiots taken out. I know I do.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47172 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:35 pm to
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Not making excuses but he right in some sense. They limit the land for cattle which really raises prices for beef. The government is pretty shitty in this regard but these guys are stupid for the way they handle their issues with gov.


lets be honest, they arent going to win in court. thats pretty obvious by the results so far.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133252 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:40 pm to
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but I also think the majority of people here would like to see these idiots taken out.


What harm are they causing exactly?

Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

I appreciate the point you're trying to make, but I also think the majority of people here would like to see these idiots taken out. I know I do.

Majority?

Maybe so ,but they seem quite more sympathetic to armed militias threatening to kill law enforcement .


Not quite the same level of understanding for other groups who have issues with LO.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:43 pm to
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The Native American tribes say hello. Back then it was bloody tribe massacres now it's death by a thousand cuts.


Yeah you won't hear the racists whites saying this shite, b/c they were the thugs back then stealing and killing shite. No wonder why the blacks act like this now, as they learned that gay behavior from the whites as slaves.


But seriously, the govt is great at stealing, I mean taking land from the citizens. Eminent Domain anyone? Civil Forfeiture anyone?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8693 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:52 pm to
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Calling the Jackson councilman an idiot and a traitor and whatever else for calling on citizens to disobey and harass cops coming into Jackson for doing their jobs, while calling these guys harmless and justified for disobeying and harassing another branch of government authority.

Either violence, short of serious bodily harm, is justified when you believe you and yours are being unjustly treated, or its never justified and you should always use the courts or peaceful protests.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133252 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:04 pm to
You don't see how a protest occupying a vacant ranger station In the middle of the woods to protest corrupt and injust practices by the federal gov't are different than some councilmen calling for citizens to attack, with bottles and bricks, law officers who are pursuing criminals?


You can't be that dense.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62897 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:05 pm to
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And when black people say this about police?
They're right, but police bully everyone. The notion fed to blacks that police (and whites in general) are out to get them would be comical if it wasn't so evil.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:37 pm to
I am surprised that so many baws who have no idea how ranching works are piling on the family. It really shows the power of media to control a narrative.



The family did not encourage and does not support the Bundy Clan from NV who took over the empty ranger station.

They served their time, 3 months for Pops and 12 months for the son, and paid $400,000 in restitution to cover the cost of fighting the fires.

It looks as if someone in the federal government was unhappy they couldn't break the Hammonds and get them to sell their ranch and decided to enforce the minimum 5 year sentence under the Anti-terrorism Act sending the father and son back to prison.

Also, why you baws so upset about the poaching allegation? I could understand if it was some city slicker up in the mountains for the weekend drinking 30 packs of Coors who poached a deer. But we are talking about a rancher allegedly killing a deer on his own property thousands of acres away from anybody.

Here is a thorough explanation of what the Hammond family has had to endure from the federal government over the past 50+ years.

(Trigger Warning: the link is to a conservative website and the article is more than 140 characters)

This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Futures Bleak
Member since Jun 2014
3545 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:52 pm to
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fr33manator


Nice to know you support terrorists
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133252 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:01 pm to
Who exactly are they terrorizing? Bears?
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