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re: 119 Used Car models to avoid based on make and year from annual survey

Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Can confirm that the 2021 Tahoe is a piece if shite.


I’ve owned several and they were all shite.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Who was President pre-2016 and enacted a shite-ton of retarded mandates for safety and emissions? There's your answer.


Bro, it’s takes more than an engine to make a car work. I have a ‘19 Ford and the engine/transmission are the only things not causing me problems.

On the whole, American cars are very cheaply made.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
43137 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:20 pm to
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they left out toyota...


My American made Tundra did not make the list. All of those imports from Mexico seem to be having a hard time not being Fixed, Or Repaired, Daily.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
17356 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:28 pm to
What’s the issue with the 15-19 Silverado / Sierra out of curiosity?
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11446 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:39 pm to
And that’s why once you go Toyota, you never go back.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:40 pm to
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they left out toyota...oh wait


Heard nothing but good things about the new V6 Turbo
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:49 pm to
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I've always wondered why no American companies have thrown a blank check at some of Toyota's engineers.


Having see how some companies operate (Clam Corp for one) they don't value competent engineering. They would rather invest their money in ideas from middle management over what those pesky engineers recommend.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1253 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:51 pm to
You will offend the Wrangler bros who love vastly overpaying for cheap made crap, with no power, and custom additions that make you look even more stupid for investing that much money into a Chrysler product
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1253 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:51 pm to
Here is the Jeep bro lol
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5133 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:52 pm to
I drive a 2010 Chevy Malibu with 168,000 miles that works great so…..
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
10944 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 12:53 pm to
I can vouch that the Chrysler Pacifica 2017 has MAJOR AC compressor issues. I've had the car for 3 years and have had to replace the compressor twice and it still doesn't work right.

What are the lemon laws on this? If the same issue pops up consistently, am I entitled to anything?
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2691 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:03 pm to
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always wondered why no American companies have thrown a blank check at some of Toyota's engineers.


Toyota's production system is not a secret. There are multiple books about it. Other manufacturers are just unwilling to make the corporate cultural shifts.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10576 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:06 pm to
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And that’s why once you go Toyota, you never go back.


I put a 150K miles on a 2012 F-150 before giving it to my Dad who sold it for $2500 at 180K miles and thought it was a damn good vehicle. And it was.

Then I bought a 2015 Tundra Platinum. Currently at 190K miles and starting to drop off in ride performance and comfort. Then, again I live a half mile from the gulf, drive it like an idiot, forget routine maintenance like an idiot, and rinse it off maybe once every two weeks and wash it monthly like an idiot. That massive V8 will have its way with you on mileage but damn its a beast. To date, I replaced the rusted out running boards and had the front seats recovered, and worry about underbody rust being an issue moving forward, but living on the coast and pushing 200K thats to be expected. Everything else would be maintenance.

So, basically, the durability of a Toyota tundra turns one into an idiot. That's all I got.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12020 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:15 pm to
What's up with GMC/Chevy trucks in '15-'19 and '21?
Some major model changes?
How is it that '20 was ok? They just didn't make any?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25255 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:28 pm to
Hell even Nissan, who most ppl consider cheap and POS, had very few models and no trucks or big SUVs.

Japanese made.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4358 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 1:32 pm to
List is shite without Mini Cooper on it.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3563 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:01 pm to
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How is it that '20 was ok?


Mine with less than 33,000 miles has already had the torque converter replaced and the fuel pump control module replaced. The lock/unlock button broke and the drivers seat up/down operation is sketchy.

Meanwhile my 2016 Altima with 139,000 has been flawless other than the damn CVT which Nissan ate all but $2,000 of the cost.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
18977 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:04 pm to
Any Nissan/Infiniti with a CVT should be on the list and bolded.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Addison, TX
Member since Sep 2017
933 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:12 pm to
Genesis looks to be much more reliable than Hyundai and Kia. Only earlier model years for two of their sedans.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
12369 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 4:19 pm to
Any Nissan/Infiniti with a CVT should be on the list and bolded.
—Truth! Total garbage.
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