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re: 11 percent of African Americans that took ACT deemed prepared for college
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:15 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:15 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
If they wrote the test in Ebonics I'd struggle with it. I can't understand that shite. I'm sure it's tough if that's all you know.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:15 pm to tigerskin
Seriously, what type of standardized test can be created that would be more "black" centric that would "level " the testing field? ?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:19 pm to ShortyRob
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That's fricking amazing. Blacks are performing more poorly, IN ENGLISH, than the people who use English as a 2nd language.
If you've ever worked with ESL (English as a Second Language) students, it's really not too terribly shocking. A lot of those students end up being decent students (some incredibly successful students) once they cross the language barrier.
I'd argue it's because there's a cultural reinforcement among a lot of refugees and immigrants that their education here is something that a lot wouldn't have been able to obtain in their home country without significant social privilege/money. Unless they come over with their families who are financially established, a lot of those kids are poorer than your average low-income African-American student. Yet they tend to have a greater respect for the doors education can open for them.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:22 pm to ShortyRob
If you're a black kid with even near average test scores on the LSAT, GMAT, or MCAT you pretty much have your ticket punched to whatever school you want to attend.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:25 pm to tigerskin
I took it twice. Got a 26 my second time
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:28 pm to Breesus
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Let me guess:
Black students, black teachers, black principles, black school boards, majority black cities, white man's fault?
At least someone gets it
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:29 pm to tigerskin
Sounds high
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:36 pm to tigerskin
What was the Asian scores?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:38 pm to BRgetthenet
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Volod took the ACT.
Stole it?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:38 pm to tigerskin
Well, at least I am in the 10%.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Oh. I get this.
If you've ever worked with ESL (English as a Second Language) students, it's really not too terribly shocking. A lot of those students end up being decent students (some incredibly successful students) once they cross the language barrier.
But, blacks really can't run around talking about all their "disadvantages" when a group of largely poor people who didn't even fricking grow up with English score better than blacks...............IN ENGLISH!
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:53 pm to tigerskin
You can't legislate fathers into homes.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:56 pm to TigernMS12
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They learn differently
Maybe if they had their own schools . . .
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:00 pm to East Coast Band
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Seriously, what type of standardized test can be created that would be more "black" centric that would "level " the testing field? ?
Seems they definitely tried. It wasn't all that long ago that I was taking these tests and seemingly every single passage in English and Reading had to do with race/civil rights/etc. It was out of hand and repetitive.
Still got a 36 though on first try. :coco2:
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:07 pm to ihometiger
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How did the Asians fair?
I always look forward to the Asian fair. The midway foods are fantastic.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:11 pm to tigerskin
But what effect will this have on 99L's recent slight movement to the NNW?
Help me understand.
Help me understand.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:17 pm to Gaston
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If they wrote the test in Ebonics I'd struggle with it. I can't understand that shite. I'm sure it's tough if that's all you know.
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One of my Facebook friends is a black woman who is successful in the finance industry. She wrote "I succeed because I stay focus on my family." She's done that more than once. Others write things like "Here my baby on his first day of school"..I see it over and over. Is this an effort to blend in with their people? They don't want to seem educated and be called out for it?
ETA: Now that I think about it, I think this was mentioned way back in To Kill a Mockingbird. The maid, Calpurnia, did it. She said that it is necessary to act different based on who you are around. Probably the same way as acting one way in church and another way at the bar.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:24 pm to cfa626
What's the infatuation with black people on the OT? Maybe they'll have a "Black People" board or something. ??
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:25 pm to cfa626
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One of my Facebook friends is a black woman who is successful in the finance industry. She wrote "I succeed because I stay focus on my family." She's done that more than once. Others write things like "Here my baby on his first day of school"..I see it over and over
While the sentiment is appreciated, and I don't attempt to refute it, I'll add that I read other physician's official medical record notes with misspellings and grammar errors on a daily basis. People, in general, don't care about the rules of the English language so long as their point comes across. I don't think it's isolated to any one group of people.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:34 pm to Lou Pai
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Seems they definitely tried. It wasn't all that long ago that I was taking these tests and seemingly every single passage in English and Reading had to do with race/civil rights/etc. It was out of hand and repetitive.
I'd bet my house that in any random grouping of recent high school grads, in a test on major civil rights milestones, white kids would crush black kids.
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