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re: Would you like to see the Saints give Ingram an extension with higher pay or let him walk?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
Resign him to a fair deal for 3 years...... key is..... can’t overpay !!
In 2019 draft....... our 2nd and 3rd round picks (no #1 Pick ) should be from LB, DT, TE or RB.
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:30 pm to diat150
I’m not saying that Kamara can’t be a true #1 RB but in all honesty, you have to wonder if he can hold up for a full season. He might but he has to prove it to me first. Ingram clearly can. I think y’all are highly underestimating how good Ingram is and I kinda hope y’all do let him walk.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:12 am to DoubleDown
Rantards are the only ones underestimating him
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:47 am to GeeOH
This board has never seemed to have much regard for Ingram, but the guy is productive. I’d let him go only I absolutely necessary.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:40 pm to goatmilker
Going by that chart it would appear that the Panthers took it up the behind on the McCaffrey deal particularly in comparison to Kamara's deal with the Saints.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:43 pm to cbree88
Kamara is NOT a number 1 back. If we do that, he’ll just get injured and then that’ll be the end of him.
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:38 pm to cbree88
The Saints have not had a featured back for years..why pay someone for a role they will not fill...since Pierre and Ivory, we have not needed to overpay for RBs; why start now??
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:46 pm to LSUGoo
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The Saints have not had a featured back for years..why pay someone for a role they will not fill...since Pierre and Ivory, we have not needed to overpay for RBs; why start now??
Because the first time since Deuce, there's a RB who can be the feature back.
People keep saying well "RBBC", but its so underestimated how many snaps and touches Ingram has a year. Or how Kamara actually complements him in that sense and both can actually co-exist on the field at the same time.
Aside from Ingram, Deuce is the only RB in this system to ever carry it 200 times. Ingram has done it 3 times at this point, he's vastly underrated by this fan-base
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:57 pm to htran90
Last season Ingram's carries increased when AK was not available...some of u forget Ingram sulking on the sidelines when he wasn't in the game a season ago..This isn't an indictment of Ingram, we just should not overpay for what we can get at a lesser price..Salary cap implications be taken into consideration
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:00 pm to LSUGoo
He was sulking when Tim Hightower poached his carries, dude made every play up to that point and got jacked by an inferior player. Imagine Peterson in his prime being poached by a 3rd string rb.
I guess you missed all last season where he took it upon himself to help Kamara and be the ultimate team player by helping his #1 competition. Those two were inseparable and thoroughly enjoyed each other and their success.
He's a feature back. We have two feature backs, but instead of feeding 1 guy 350+ touches, we give them both 200+. That's still among league leading touches and a smarter decision than turning one guy into Leveon bell.
I guess you missed all last season where he took it upon himself to help Kamara and be the ultimate team player by helping his #1 competition. Those two were inseparable and thoroughly enjoyed each other and their success.
He's a feature back. We have two feature backs, but instead of feeding 1 guy 350+ touches, we give them both 200+. That's still among league leading touches and a smarter decision than turning one guy into Leveon bell.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:06 pm to htran90
You're defending the wrong point..the subject is compensation and the value the Saints specifically place on the position..btw, he's also pouted on the sidelines after Payton pulled him untimely fumbles
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:17 pm to LSUGoo
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You're defending the wrong point..the subject is compensation and the value the Saints specifically place on the position..btw, he's also pouted on the sidelines after Payton pulled him untimely fumbles
Players pout on the sidelines all the time when that happens and they get benched. Its not exclusively to Ingram, nor is it a problem when he doesn't bitch and whine about it constantly.
Its compensation, we have 2 feature backs. One is who is coming up this year. Overpaying is stupid, but paying him like a feature back isn't outrageous. The Brees era is slowly transitioning into a RB-favorable situation and it worked phenomenally last year. He's a feature back, pay him like one and keep it going.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 5:59 pm to htran90
As previously mentioned, let's see how productive our running game is while Ingram serves his suspension..we can determine his value at that point..Your point is valid regarding Brees..however Brees will play for another two years. At which point we can identify a younger back with fresh legs
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:01 pm to cbree88
I think it all depends on how well Scott plays in that role if he is capable. If the offense doesnt miss a beat with him in there, Ingram wont get a big pay day when we can use the new guy.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:01 pm to cbree88
Ingram should get paid the most possible that doesn’t screw us with resigning the young crop of players about to get off of rookie deals. He’s a top 7-10 RB, and deserves to be paid as such. Hopefully we are the ones who can pay him that because he is crucial to our offense.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:18 am to cbree88
Pretty easy to tell the LSU fans from the Saints fans in this thread:
LSU Fans: "LET HIM WALK!"
Saints Fans: "It depends on what he wants and the other contracts. Keep him if we can, but not at the cost of other vital players like MT13"
LSU Fans: "LET HIM WALK!"
Saints Fans: "It depends on what he wants and the other contracts. Keep him if we can, but not at the cost of other vital players like MT13"
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:25 am to Ryan3232
Trade him
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:40 am to cbree88
They should absolutely keep him if he's willing to sign a reasonable contract. He is getting up there in age so a 2 year deal worth 8-9 per year, with an option for a 3rd, isn't a terrible contract for him. He's still got a few productive years left in the tank.
ETA: I was not a fan of his early on, but he has turned a corner and become a top 5 back in the leage, IMO. I don't think it's wise to break up the best 1-2 punch in the league when you've still got Kamara on his rookie contract.
ETA: I was not a fan of his early on, but he has turned a corner and become a top 5 back in the leage, IMO. I don't think it's wise to break up the best 1-2 punch in the league when you've still got Kamara on his rookie contract.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:50 pm to LSUGoo
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Ingram is a two down back..let him walk for more money..West may prove to be just as serviceable in his absence
might be the dumbest thing I ever read. Until I read the rest of your post in this thread.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:47 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Is that why a RB was taken second overall this last draft?
Barkley is on a whole other level. Dude has the potential to be the best back of his era.
Adding to the discussion, I think Terrance West is the poor mans Mark Ingram. I think he will do well here if given the opportunity. Furthermore, we've got a knack for finding UDFA running backs prior to drafting Mark in 2011. However, thats not something you can really depend on
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 9:48 pm
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