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re: What WRs in the draft can be actual #1 WRs?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:33 pm to bonethug0180
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:33 pm to bonethug0180
Yeah, the whole concept of number one receiver is overrated. Who was the all pro bad arse number one receiver for the Saints when they were putting up video game numbers with Drew? Way more important is having all the right pieces fitting together making the offense multidimensional. I think either Tate or Lemon give the Saints an added dimension to their offense.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 6:13 pm to Jojodaddy
We traded valuable draft capital to snag Olave and he’s about to become one of the top paid WRs in football. We can label him whatever we want but the investments set the expectation.
Not even considering the health stuff, we will be poised to pay him top dollar and the best season he had was catching 100 balls for 1100 yard on 156 targets. He’s averages 141 targets per 17 games. Thats a shite ton. There’s WRs with that target load putting up 1300, 1400, 1500+ yard seasons. Taking the “best is yet to come approach” on a soon to be top 5 paid guy, who is already 4 years in the league, should make your stomach uneasy
I don’t even want to get into comparing anyone with Drew Brees, but look at the seasons Graham, Colston, MT13 had when they saw 140 targets like Olave and that is what you want your WR1 to look like
Not even considering the health stuff, we will be poised to pay him top dollar and the best season he had was catching 100 balls for 1100 yard on 156 targets. He’s averages 141 targets per 17 games. Thats a shite ton. There’s WRs with that target load putting up 1300, 1400, 1500+ yard seasons. Taking the “best is yet to come approach” on a soon to be top 5 paid guy, who is already 4 years in the league, should make your stomach uneasy
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Who was the all pro bad arse number one receiver for the Saints when they were putting up video game numbers with Drew?
I don’t even want to get into comparing anyone with Drew Brees, but look at the seasons Graham, Colston, MT13 had when they saw 140 targets like Olave and that is what you want your WR1 to look like
Posted on 3/19/26 at 6:32 pm to Lsujacket66
This is an odd WR class.
I think you will get two or three guys who will turn out to be like an Amon-Ra St. Brown or a Puca. I think you’ll get seven to eight that end up like a Keenan Allen or T.J. Houshmandzadeh or Tyler Lockett type career. Then there will also be nine to ten guys who won’t work out.
The thing is, this year it’s hard to say who will be whom. There isn’t a physically elite guy like a Chase or Calvin Johnson. But there seem to be more WRs than usual that have potential to be really really good. What separates them is kind of in the eye of the beholder and their success will depend greatly on the situation they go into.
I like Tate’s separation and quickness, but he doesn’t have elite speed. Lemon seems tough, but not elite size. Tyson is hurt all the time. But how much separation is there from those guys and someone like Bernard, Brazzell, or Boston?
It really seems like this year is truly a luck of the draw WR class and you’re avoiding downside more so than projecting elite traits.
IMHO
I think you will get two or three guys who will turn out to be like an Amon-Ra St. Brown or a Puca. I think you’ll get seven to eight that end up like a Keenan Allen or T.J. Houshmandzadeh or Tyler Lockett type career. Then there will also be nine to ten guys who won’t work out.
The thing is, this year it’s hard to say who will be whom. There isn’t a physically elite guy like a Chase or Calvin Johnson. But there seem to be more WRs than usual that have potential to be really really good. What separates them is kind of in the eye of the beholder and their success will depend greatly on the situation they go into.
I like Tate’s separation and quickness, but he doesn’t have elite speed. Lemon seems tough, but not elite size. Tyson is hurt all the time. But how much separation is there from those guys and someone like Bernard, Brazzell, or Boston?
It really seems like this year is truly a luck of the draw WR class and you’re avoiding downside more so than projecting elite traits.
IMHO
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:13 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:He started 7 1/2 games with a different QB and could have hit 1300yds with 1 more game. Here are the stats and I gave Rattler the TB game (above his averages).
He averages 141 targets per 17 games. Thats a shite ton. There’s WRs putting up 1300, 1400, 1500+ yard seasons.
With Tyler Shough:
8gm/ 48 rec/ 660 yds
With Rattler:
8gm/ 52 rec/ 503 yds
17 games with Shough:
102 rec/ 1402 yds
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I don’t even want to get into comparing but Graham, Colston, MT13 saw 140 targets
17 game average with Shough:
140 rec/ 1,925 yds
Its worth playing it out.
Sorry for hijacking the thread. I like the potential in Chris Bell Rd 2.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:19 pm to Suntiger
I think fit is the key word this year. As you said there are just a lot of very good WRs but who if any will be elite.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:22 pm to Lsujacket66
I really like Malachi Fields out of Notre Dame.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:52 pm to StrongOffer
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It's honestly a very weak year for receivers. I'd go slot receiver in a later round and get your #1 in next year's draft.
I think this class is crazy deep at very good receivers but not any real elite ones. The top 3 (Tate , lemon , Tyson ) all could be great but there are 5-6 other names I could throw out that could also be equally as good. KC Concepcion is one of them.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 11:51 pm to Lsujacket66
Easily Tyson. I still like Tate but I don’t think he’s ever going to be dominant. He’s going to be a Devonta Smith type. A REALLY good WR2 but just isn’t a WR1 kind of guy.
Tyson just looks different. Put on the highlights and he’s just playing the position at a different level than anyone else in the draft as far as separation, catch radius, route running, etc. it’s really just his medicals. If he didn’t have any medicals, I think the Titans or Giants would take him without question. But the medicals have scared a lot of teams off I think
Tyson just looks different. Put on the highlights and he’s just playing the position at a different level than anyone else in the draft as far as separation, catch radius, route running, etc. it’s really just his medicals. If he didn’t have any medicals, I think the Titans or Giants would take him without question. But the medicals have scared a lot of teams off I think
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:58 am to VA LSU fan
quote:Another OT? wth, id rather a Guard, LB, Cornerback, Safety,DE
I'd rather take an OT over WR in round 1.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 9:37 am to Lsujacket66
Tate - his size, hands, and what we know of his character makes him an extremely high floor guy. Do we want a high floor guy at 8?
Tyson - amazing skills, do we want to take a chance at 8 with his injury history
Lemon - really good football player. Not 100% sure if he translates as dynamic in the NFL.
I hope we go defense but with that said, the only way to screw this up is by trading up to get someone. I’d rather take one of these receivers than to trade up for “our guy” whoever that could be
Tyson - amazing skills, do we want to take a chance at 8 with his injury history
Lemon - really good football player. Not 100% sure if he translates as dynamic in the NFL.
I hope we go defense but with that said, the only way to screw this up is by trading up to get someone. I’d rather take one of these receivers than to trade up for “our guy” whoever that could be
Posted on 3/20/26 at 12:42 pm to whodatfan
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People constantly flexing on Olave not being a number 1 receiver are retarded
I would argue that he can be a number one receiver come up.But he would do better if he had a 1b. Truth is, you do need deep threat/contested catch guys
Posted on 3/20/26 at 1:03 pm to GynoSandberg
And yet he won't be top 5 for long, if at all.
You have Calvin fricking Ridley of all people sitting at 2nd in per year salary. You'll have at minimum 5 guys pass up Olave either through extensions this season or early in FA next year. Yes he will be paid higher than what he "should be", but so was Alec Pierce and a bunch of other receivers this year and it will be the same next year.
He has proven he is a top 20 receiver, and can even be a top 10 receiver. Regardless of how people feel, that's just the facts. He's going to get paid higher than what people "can stomach" because that's the nature of the league and the current inflating cap.
You have Calvin fricking Ridley of all people sitting at 2nd in per year salary. You'll have at minimum 5 guys pass up Olave either through extensions this season or early in FA next year. Yes he will be paid higher than what he "should be", but so was Alec Pierce and a bunch of other receivers this year and it will be the same next year.
He has proven he is a top 20 receiver, and can even be a top 10 receiver. Regardless of how people feel, that's just the facts. He's going to get paid higher than what people "can stomach" because that's the nature of the league and the current inflating cap.
Posted on 3/20/26 at 2:39 pm to bonethug0180
It’s a good idea to pay a top 20 WR with blood cots and concussions top money?
Start thinking of your Loomis excuses now
Start thinking of your Loomis excuses now
Posted on 3/20/26 at 9:23 pm to Lsujacket66
Tyson is extremely polished and technical. He’s going to be a #1 WR in year 2.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 8:14 am to Dantheman504
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He started 7 1/2 games with a different QB and could have hit 1300yds with 1 more game. Here are the stats and I gave Rattler the TB game (above his averages).
With Tyler Shough:
8gm/ 48 rec/ 660 yds
With Rattler:
8gm/ 52 rec/ 503 yds
17 games with Shough:
102 rec/ 1402 yds
its easy to get numbers on a bad team when you dominate the target share. Pulling the trigger on a huge Olave deal will be a ginormous mistake. They need to see if he can be healthy for another year, at the very least.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 8:26 am to phutureisyic
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I really like Malachi Fields out of Notre Dame.
There are some really good WRs that are projected to go in later rounds.
Fields, Bernard, Boston, Brazzell, Cooper Jr., Lane, Branch, Burks, Ted Hurst, Bryce Lane, CJ Daniels, Brenen Thompson, etc.
Like Goat said, fit is the key this year.
I really like Bernard, Cooper, Boston and Fields. Solid route runners and can get separation.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 12:02 pm to Suntiger
Don't take a WR at 8. 2nd or 3rd round would be the best strategy.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 12:48 pm to Lester Earl
[quote]its easy to get numbers on a bad team when you dominate the target share[/quote
He had 4 less catches and 157 additional yards after Shough took over. He averaged 20-30 extra yards per game with the same target share.
He had 4 less catches and 157 additional yards after Shough took over. He averaged 20-30 extra yards per game with the same target share.
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