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re: What has Dennis Allen ever done to earn the trust of Saints fans?

Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:12 pm to


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What has Dennis Allen ever done to earn the trust of Saints fans?


He hates you so...there is that
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:12 pm to
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imagine if he had an offense to play with half of his starts.


Let's play with that logic, imagine if jameis had an offense to play with.

I'll read your reply when I have a day to kill because we know from the sun coming up to alignment of the moons of Pluto the night before games are reasons taysom had a bad game
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Let's play with that logic, imagine if jameis had an offense to play with.


Jameis had a lot more at the beginning of season than taysom during his stretch. Regardless, i guess you're admitting that not having an offense to play with does in fact matter.
Posted by WS Bengal
Winston Salem
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:50 pm to
You are talking about the covid game? Realy
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1958 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:54 pm to
Aside from his game plans against the Eagles, he's had a pretty good run as DC.
Posted by honeybadger07
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:56 pm to
uhhhhh......i think you take the cake on looking dumb chadboy
Posted by honeybadger07
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:58 pm to
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imagine if


oh so now we playing hypothetical's....

Imagine if Taysom had a whole off season and camp to duel it out and show who was the better QB......oh wait.....
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:59 pm to
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It doesn’t change the fact that Taysom is a QB



Yes, in college he was a great QB at BYU.....we talking about the pros now buddy, get with it!
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Jameis had a lot more at the beginning of season than taysom during his stretch. Regardless, i guess you're admitting that not having an offense to play with does in fact matter.


I never denied it did but why don't we measure the quarterback by what they have actually done on the field. And you can't say "well jameis has had aoot more snaos than taysom" And? That's not jameis fault, that actually kind makes my point, taysom wasn't Good enough for someone to take a chance on him at quarterback. Then guess what, Payton promised it was his team after Brees and what happens as soon as drew is gone? Jameis gets the job.

Do yall see something that Payton, Allen, and every other coach, scout, trainer and gm doesn’t?
Posted by DownHome
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:14 pm to
Not saying he's going to be this guy, but seems his career is taking a somewhat similar path.

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Belichick began his coaching career in 1975 and became the defensive coordinator for New York Giants head coach Bill Parcells by 1985. Parcells and Belichick won two Super Bowls together before Belichick left to become the head coach of the Cleveland Browns in 1991. He remained in Cleveland for five seasons but was fired following the team's 1995 season. He then rejoined Parcells, first in New England, where the team lost Super Bowl XXXI, and later with the New York Jets.

After being named head coach of the Jets, Belichick resigned after only one day on the job to accept the head coaching job for the New England Patriots on January 27, 2000. Since then, he has led the Patriots to 17 AFC East division titles, 13 appearances in the AFC Championship Game, and nine Super Bowl appearances, with a record six wins. In total Belichick has won eight Super Bowl titles and finished as runner-up four times from his combined time as an assistant and head coach.
Posted by Froman
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:25 pm to
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your point is irrelevant


One could make that argument for this entire thread. You started it with the clown comments.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:36 pm to
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He had an absolutely putrid tenure as head coach of the Raiders.


who hasnt?

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Also, in the one game where he acted as head coach last year, our offense sputtered and never made it into the end zone


9-0 right....I remember that because we WON THE GAME

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I’m not believing it until I see it in reference to him being an improved head coach.


ok bye

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He’s basically Ed Orgeron 2.0, except without a miraculous championship run.



then maybe he adds that this year then

you are easily one of, if not THE, worst posters on the board now...gotta be an old-time poster like Breaxmosexual or even Teddy B's alter....the possibility that there are more people as dumb this (outside of politics) gives me gas
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:44 pm to
Yes he was a QB who went undrafted and was only on a PS until he made our roster for special teams. So yeah, technically he’s a QB but he’s not an NFL one
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:54 pm to
Being a successful coordinator at any level, much less the NFL, for nearly a decade is not something Orgeron ever came close to having as far as resume pre-2016. Terrible comparison, especially since his “miraculous championship run” was AFTER he became LSU head coach.

Do you not see with the defenses the past several years, the strongest part of the Saints team, that Allen is clearly better than when we was HC last? Which was years ago for a terrible franchise
Posted by LSUtiger89
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Member since Dec 2007
4751 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 4:31 pm to
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This is a disingenuous take. Taysom is a QB who is just now making a transition to TE.


Thus is a little disingenuous also. Why is he transitioning to TE? It’s not because he’s better at QB. So really the first statement that he was a TE playing QB still stands. He was out of position for the NFL.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 4:42 pm to
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It’s not because he’s better at QB.

Why did he play QB at BYU then?
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
1184 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:04 pm to
He had an absolutely putrid tenure as head coach of the Raiders.

Also, in the one game where he acted as head coach last year, our offense sputtered and never made it into the end zone.

I’m not believing it until I see it in reference to him being an improved head coach. He’s basically Ed Orgeron 2.0, except without a miraculous championship run.

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Well clearly your mind is made up that Dennis Allen is going to fail, but I will play along.

He failed as Raiders coach- You could say that it was more of owner Mark Davis calling the shots. I think he didn't have many draft picks his first year. And he was bringing players to " Oakland " in the crappy stadium

( Bill Belicheck didn't have good outing as first time head coach either)


He has had a Super Bowl caliber defense the last few years.

Just strange BS from " No Call" , Kyle Rudolf Pushoff, Minny Miracle, and TE Cooks being Tampas MVP.

His defense helped keep last year's injured plagued team capable of making the playoffs had 49ers not beat the Rams.

His defense shut out Tom Brady and relatively healthy Tampa team. This w/ injured Hill at QB and only one drafted WR starting, scoring 9 points w/ backup Kicker

Keeping the same offense and defense from the last few years ( Continuity in the program goes along way. )


I'm impressed with the draft, not sure if both first round pics will work out, but both filled much needed positions and come relatively cheap.

Signed a veteran like Honey Badger. Talent might be reduced with age. But he brings leadership for locker room, Experience, Super Bowl experience, and hometown team pride.

Who is to say he will not learn from his past mistake?


I am actually more encouraged than I would be had we brought in a hot shot young coach with a different playbook, different coaches, don't know the culture of the city and it's fanbase.


So be positive for a change. Let's see what happens after this season.
Posted by RazzleDazzle
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1434 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:05 pm to
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Clearly I don’t expect to win games only scoring in field goals considering we have an above average/solid QB coming back and two solid receivers assuming Olave is going to be good.


Above average QB? I want what you are smoking.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63721 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:22 pm to
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He’s basically Ed Orgeron 2.0, except without a miraculous championship run.



I'll never understand why people act as if they are really dumb in order to get attention.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7198 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:42 pm to
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cbree88

You're either trolling or you're one of the dumbest posters on this site, and that's saying something. I'd post the things you are outright wrong about or contradicting yourself on, but it'd be easier to point out the one kernel of truth in the pile of human shite that is your opinion.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 5:48 pm
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