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re: We pushed the poker chips in and made a huge bet

Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Buckwheat35
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:43 pm to
The only thing that needs fixin is between your ears.

Cam right now is the best all-around 3 down lineman in football. Against the run and pass.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:43 pm to


Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:49 pm to


Mack was 1st in 2015 and 2016, and 4th in 2017. Jordan was #1 just last year.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Jordan was #1 just last year.


So right now Jordan is the best in the league?
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:57 pm to
Point proven.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:57 pm to
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So right now Jordan is the best in the league?



If you want to look at just one year, then yes, but I don't like to take a myopic view of a players performance.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Jordan was #1 just last year.




Damn you're dumb.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

So right now Jordan is the best in the league?



So Roethlisberger is better than Brees right now? He was last year according to PFF
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57826 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:07 pm to
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Spent some capital but guys with his potential aren’t available in the bottom half of round 1. After essentially getting 4 first rounders last draft, we can afford the gamble.


Except that Drew’s age makes the gamble even more of a deal.

This is going “all in” for 18 and 19. If Davenport ends up like Kikaha or one of the other many defensive flops by the FO, we’re in deep shite.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Except that Drew’s age makes the gamble even more of a deal. This is going “all in” for 18 and 19. If Davenport ends up like Kikaha or one of the other many defensive flops by the FO, we’re in deep shite.


The "going all in phrase is getting gay. This draft pick has nothing to do with "going all in," it's just a guy the Saints liked, they probably would have done the same if we won a SB last year or Brees retired. We had an insane amount of injuries last year on D 2nd half of season, a ton of depth on D with everyone healthy, we would be fine if Davenport doesn't pan out.

This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57826 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
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The "going all in phrase is getting gay. This draft pick has nothing to do with "going all in


2 consecutive first rounders and a 5th on a raw project is going all in for a short 2 year window.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:15 pm to
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2 consecutive first rounders and a 5th on a raw project is going all in for a short 2 year window.


No it's not, it's simply moving up to get your man.
Posted by boogedy
Member since May 2011
396 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:16 pm to
And where did Khalil Mack play his college ball? Where was he picked?

Think about these answers before you start running your mouth in this thread.
Posted by Buckwheat35
Member since Apr 2018
260 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:21 pm to
No he isnt, but Cameron Jordan is better then Khalil freaking Mack and Everson Griffin.

Players can improve; players can get better coaching; players can even fall off.

Cam is the best DE in football. I dont need anyone to tell me he is or isnt. Guy plays every down and dominates run or pass.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:23 pm to
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And where did Khalil Mack play his college ball? Where was he picked?

Think about these answers before you start running your mouth in this thread.




I wasn't knocking Davenport, I actually love the pick. It was in response to a disagreement on who the best DE in the NFL is. I took the unpopular opinion of Mack based off of the last few years, while others took Jordan based off last year.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Players can improve; players can get better coaching


People on here don't grasp things of that nature. I'm not just speaking of MD, I'm talking about any rookie we drafted who doesn't make the ProBowl that year is considered a failure by 90% of the posters.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:24 pm to
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So Roethlisberger is better than Brees right now? He was last year according to PFF



is QB the same as DE?
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

is QB the same as DE?



So we use PFF ratings for DE, but not QB? Ok, gotcha this is an argument where we pick and choose which stat we use.

quote:

I dont need anyone to tell me he is or isnt. Guy plays every down and dominates run or pass.


Ditto with me on Mack. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:30 pm to
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So we use PFF ratings for DE, but not QB? Ok, gotcha this is an argument where we pick and choose which stat we use.


PFF sucks, just watch the game and you can know. We aren't women who need PFF to help us decide who is good. I'm not saying you are, I just hate any and all PFF references and people who use that in an argument.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 2:31 pm to
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PFF sucks, just watch the game and you can know. We aren't women who need PFF to help us decide who is good. I'm not saying you are, I just hate any and all PFF references and people who use that in an argument


I agree, I only used it when it was thrown at me
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