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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:16 pm to BigPerm30
Winston ran our offense last year. He's hurt and needs to take some time to heal. I think he is afraid that he will his starting position and then his career is likely done.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
What are you laughing at?
This team is loaded. It’s coaching. shite coaching.
Please enlighten me.
This team is loaded. It’s coaching. shite coaching.
Please enlighten me.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:23 pm to Mouth
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What are you laughing at?
This
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This team is loaded
Coaching may be an issue but poor drafting is concern imo. And poor QB play is a bigger problem
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:26 pm to Mouth
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What are you laughing at?
This team is loaded. It’s coaching. shite coaching.
Please enlighten me.
Our offense is poo but what does that matter? We can't install a completely different offense during the season. We can't hire a new OC and OL coach.
Well still lose our top-10 first rounder and face a shitty cap situation in 2023 after that.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
We lost today on a fumble scoop and score and 2 missed FG. The idiocy from last years draft will be felt next April
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:32 pm to Mouth
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This is about coaching. Not players.
Eh, I would disagree with this. I think some of it is on coaching, but you can’t just boldly state this isn’t on the players. Jameis has missed more receivers, in terms of just not seeing guys, and making arrant throws, in these three games than Drew would make in an entire season. And that’s just one example, but the most obvious one.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:36 pm to Mouth
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This is about coaching. Not players.
No
This is about QB play
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:38 pm to CP3forMVP
Blaming coaches is simplistic and “easy” to fix. Which is not to say we’ve had great coaching in 3 games but the issues with this team and roster are much deeper
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Just a quarterback, to be exact.
No we just need an offense
But no clue where that'll come from, so it's an issue either way.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Tyler Huntley will be a RFA at the end of the season. If the Ravens are able to agree on a contract with Lamar Jackson then I’d really like to see the Saints make a play for him. Someone like Gardner Minchew could be a trade target as well. Other changes are needed (new OC and new OL coach stand out) but this team has a core group of players that are good enough to make the playoffs. The offense is just killing us right now.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:03 am to shel311
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Just a quarterback, to be exact.
Our OL and RBs have been bad, too.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:01 am to shel311
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quote:No we just need an offenseJust a quarterback, to be exact.
Are you watching this OL?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
I think that rebuild could start this offseason and result in a relatively quick return to respectability/contending. Let’s not forget giving up our 1st next year was spent to be able to get both Olave and Penning this year—and we are almost certainly getting more than that 1 & 2 back when Shaughn Peightonne gets traded to the Cowboys…
$49.6M of that can be cleared with designating the following as post June 1st cuts:
Cam Jordan. Father Time is quickly gaining ground and we’ve got some decent options to blunt his departure.
Andrus Peat. Do I really need to describe to anyone here why this is an easy move?
Alvin Kamara. He feels like a luxury right now. He’s been unavailable due to injuries more and more frequently, and we apparently don’t have the quarterback to be able to utilize what really makes him special as a dual threat mismatch piece.
Jameis Winston. He’s not the guy on a relatively talented team, and he certainly won’t be the guy trying to lead a less-talented “rebuilding” team. I think we all thought having CGM, Jarvis and Olave would almost by default result in “even better” results than last year’s 14/3 ratio with relatively low completion % and yards.
Of course the most important piece in a rebuild is a young, cheap QB you can build around, and this scenario gives (Dalton?) and if we’re lucky a good young QB in the draft a good WR duo of CGM and Olave, 60-80% of a good OL (Ram, McCoy, Penning?, Ruiz??) and what should still be an above average defense.
Pair that start with what has been much more good drafting than bad since Jeff Ireland arrived and I see no reason to think that the rebuild couldn’t start next year with the result being a borderline contender NEXT year & hopefully trending up for a few years after that due to having a cheap QB room and more cap space than we’ve had in what feels like a decade.
$49.6M of that can be cleared with designating the following as post June 1st cuts:
Cam Jordan. Father Time is quickly gaining ground and we’ve got some decent options to blunt his departure.
Andrus Peat. Do I really need to describe to anyone here why this is an easy move?
Alvin Kamara. He feels like a luxury right now. He’s been unavailable due to injuries more and more frequently, and we apparently don’t have the quarterback to be able to utilize what really makes him special as a dual threat mismatch piece.
Jameis Winston. He’s not the guy on a relatively talented team, and he certainly won’t be the guy trying to lead a less-talented “rebuilding” team. I think we all thought having CGM, Jarvis and Olave would almost by default result in “even better” results than last year’s 14/3 ratio with relatively low completion % and yards.
Of course the most important piece in a rebuild is a young, cheap QB you can build around, and this scenario gives (Dalton?) and if we’re lucky a good young QB in the draft a good WR duo of CGM and Olave, 60-80% of a good OL (Ram, McCoy, Penning?, Ruiz??) and what should still be an above average defense.
Pair that start with what has been much more good drafting than bad since Jeff Ireland arrived and I see no reason to think that the rebuild couldn’t start next year with the result being a borderline contender NEXT year & hopefully trending up for a few years after that due to having a cheap QB room and more cap space than we’ve had in what feels like a decade.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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What other options were there once Watson picked CLE over us?
Bro, two things can be true. Watch this.
The Saints never should have moved forward with Jameis.
Jameis was the "best" option for a team that thought it could still compete.
But that's the thing. You're not winning anything with Jameis. You might be competitive, but overall he's going to keep your squad decidedly average to below average, tank your draft capital to where you're mid every year but not really bad enough to snag an elite player, and lose you games by making incredibly stupid throws. And he'll get made fun of in the national media for being cheesy as frick. Not a leader but a joke.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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If these first 3 games indicate our quality (which may be the worst team in the NFL)
There’s absolutely zero chance we are the worst team in the league with the defense we have
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:47 am to TheRouxGuru
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There’s absolutely zero chance we are the worst team in the league with the defense we have
Carolina and Seattle are the worst and we just lost to one of them. Our offense is historically bad.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
How does any of this change if we deal Payton?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:10 am to VictoryHill
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The Saints never should have moved forward with Jameis.
it made sense, he cost nothing, worth a flyer. Outside of Watson who cost a Kings ransom and had serious off the field issues with at the time unknown punishment. And Wilson who also cost a lot he was as good as any option available
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tank your draft capital to where you're mid every year but not really bad enough to snag an elite player,
You mean the draft picks they usual trade to move up and get “ their guy”?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
You can only kick the can down the road so long. Time to pay the piper
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