We knew this was going to be a multi year rebuild

I'm still a fan but no way an NFL team should be putting up that kind of performance at home against the Falcons. They may have good players, but they are at best an above average team. That would have been embarrassing even against the Chiefs, all around pathetic performance on defense, no excuse for that. Same for offensive line. Falcons didn't have their LT and we couldn't do shite against them. There is 0 excuse for last night, none.

The defense is mainly what I’m talking about. When you have Werner and Elliss out, they knew to take advantage of that on the ground. Especially when Elliss is the on field play caller wearing the green dot.

That’s is exactly where you see issues in depth.

They’ve had two drafts and have spent the 7th and 5th most in free agency over the last two offseasons. You have a QB. The division is terrible

We are 3-7 at home over the last two seasons. 4-14 if you go back three seasons. This is an embarrassing product

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The question of whether Moore and loomis are the guys to take advantage of that situation is a very valid one

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This.

The coach can be changed, but everything else above him is stagnant with nor foreseeable means to change. Gayle is a reluctant owner. She was essentially burdened with the team through inheritance. As such, she's totally hands off, which essentially means Loomis is not just the GM, but a de facto owner. He's not replacing himself, so the franchise is stuck.

I think Moore at least gets through year 3, so any talk about replacement is just fan discussion at the moment. But assuming things don't get significantly better, does anyone have any confidence in Loomis selecting a new HC? If Moore fails that means he will have miserably missed on the only two HC hires of his tenure. For many GMs they only get one "miss". But as stated above, Loomis isn't any GM.

Good thing we have Mickey Loomis and Kellen Moore to navigate this multi year rebuild.

Do you think they know that you have to actually build and not tear apart?

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The coach can be changed, but everything else above him is stagnant with nor foreseeable means to change.

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The question is whether the coaching issues are purely on the coach or whether some or even most of it can be attributed to personnel management, meaning Loomis and the front office.

I honestly don't know, but if we look at this without the fog of last night's beatdown, I find it hard to think the issue resides mostly with this set of coaches, while I had come to the conclusion that was the case with the previous staff. We shall see.