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re: Video shows Will Smith did initially hit n run Hayes.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
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At what point did Hayes become the aggressor in your eyes?
When he retaliated by rearending Will Smiths car.
We need to let all the facts come out and both individuals played apart in this. However if I had been hit and run like Hayes I would have only followed to get the license plate of the car and then reported it to the police.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
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what dont you understand ?
Anything about that statement whatsoever.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:26 pm to DaBike
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When he retaliated by rearended Will Smiths car.
how do we know Smith didnt get agitated he was still being followed and slam on the brakes and hop out of the car?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:27 pm to gmrkr5
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what about the initial hit and run that caused this chain of events...
all good?
How is that relevant?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:27 pm to gmrkr5
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yes, seriously.. you're totally cool with the fact that Will SMith committed a crime which set off this chain of events?
My God no, but now you are doing exactly what LE was doing. Are you blaming Smith for his own shooting or not here?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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How is that relevant?
How the hell is it not?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:27 pm to DaBike
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When he retaliated by rearended Will Smiths car.
so Hayes is the aggressor when he rear ends a car, but Will Smith isnt when he rear ends Hayes? is that how it works?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:28 pm to gmrkr5
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How the hell is it not?
I asked the initial question.
Please explain the relevance.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The only thing I was wrong about was the red light being on St. Andrews instead of magazine.
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The cars were there, but Hayes still had space and seemed to stop abruptly
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Smith has been dead for 2 days, so when you come on a Saints board and troll for 10 pages, seemingly sympathizing with the shooter, expect some blowback. but LE knows this.
This entire thread is about the initial hit and run. Your vision is clouded because "this is a Saints board" and you are emotional about the subject. Personally, I'd just assume be rational about the facts rather than trying to convince myself of things that aren't supported by evidence.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Are you blaming Smith for his own shooting or not here?
absolutely not!
all i'm doing is playing devils advocate to what all of you are speculating, that Smith was totally innocent
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:29 pm to Lester Earl
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so Hayes is the aggressor when he rear ends a car, but Will Smith isnt when he rear ends Hayes? is that how it works?
one was an accident, one was on purpose.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:29 pm to gmrkr5
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how do we know Smith didnt get agitated he was still being followed and slam on the brakes and hop out of the car?
Because we don't. Just like we still don't know what was going on before the initial event yet.
Still don't know why Hayes shot Will in the back either.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:30 pm to Lester Earl
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so Hayes is the aggressor when he rear ends a car, but Will Smith isnt when he rear ends Hayes? is that how it works?
Intent.
IF Hayes INTENTIONALLY rear-ended the vehicle, then yes.
Those facts will lay themselves out. We simply do not know yet, but it seems likely given the circumstances.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:30 pm to gmrkr5
Hayes became the aggressor when he ran into the back of Smith.
This will show Hayes state of mind. He was not an innocent person who was hit and run and stopped the other person or got the tag number. He intentionally rammed his car. Got out. Fight ensued and he shot smith in the back.
The first hit and run is not an excuse and in the eyes of the law will be greatly over shadowed by him rear ending smith.
You can't take the law into your own hands
Dude shoots my mother. That is not an excuse for me to hunt him down and kill him. That would still be murder.
This will show Hayes state of mind. He was not an innocent person who was hit and run and stopped the other person or got the tag number. He intentionally rammed his car. Got out. Fight ensued and he shot smith in the back.
The first hit and run is not an excuse and in the eyes of the law will be greatly over shadowed by him rear ending smith.
You can't take the law into your own hands
Dude shoots my mother. That is not an excuse for me to hunt him down and kill him. That would still be murder.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:30 pm to Fun Bunch
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I asked the initial question. Please explain the relevance.
seemingly none of this would have happened if Smith hadnt run into the back of Hayes and fled the scene. that is how its relevant
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:31 pm to gmrkr5
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Smith was totally innocent
Smith being "totally innocent" is irrelevant.
Many victims are not, yet the other person is still a murderer and convicted as such.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:31 pm to ItTakesAThief
quote:Link?
He intentionally rammed his car. Got out
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:31 pm to DaBike
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Because we don't. Just like we still don't know what was going on before the initial event yet. Still don't know why Hayes shot Will in the back either.
anything that paints Smith in a good light is fact but anything that paints him in a bad light is speculation. mmmkay
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:31 pm to Fun Bunch
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Anything about that statement whatsoever.
people are painting Hayes as some thug monster when in reality before these events took place, Will Smith would have been just as likely to shoot someone dead as Cardell Hayes would have been(very low chance)
both owned guns and both had 1 previous arrest on their record(with Smith's being violent). It's sad that Smith is dead, but he is getting the benefit of the doubt cause he was a public figure, when in reality neither of these guys would have used a gun before that night had they not felt their life was in danger.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:32 pm to ItTakesAThief
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The first hit and run is not an excuse
Its less than an excuse. Hell, it helps the Prosecution. It shows intent.
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