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This will be unpopular, but the initial melts were justified
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:45 am
Please down vote if you agree.
A lot of "super fans" wanting to take away people's "fan cards" in here...whatever that means. Some posters express their thoughts as the game unfolds (like myself). Some keep to themselves, regardless of how they are feeling. What was obvious yesterday is the Saints came out flat as hell against an inferior opponent when they had everything to play for.
But it didn't start yesterday. This has been three weeks now of an inconsistent and unbalanced offense.
At home vs Atlanta - Brees threw for 171 yards and tossed 4 TDS, which was very good. Kamara would have ran wild on them had Payton fed him more. For whatever reason, he didn't. The Falcons fumbled the ball three times in the red zone, and we benefited from their mistakes. We fizzled out on offense numerous times. It wasn't a great game by us, but it was the Falcons on Thursday, so we took the W and smiled.
Away vs Cowboys - Awful game. Bad as it gets. Brees throws for 127 yards. LSU numbers. Defense plays great. Offense is a wreck. But hey, it happens sometimes. We'll demolish the Bucs.
Away vs Bucs - Played lifeless for basically two and half quarters. Again, Brees looks uncomfortable. We were losing 14-3 at halftime, and promptly turned the ball over to start the half. Brees throws for 201 yards. Another poor showing. We don't even try to run the ball. And then the block happens and it's like a switch turned on, and it was game over.
The point here is the Saints offense has struggled three games in a row now. Maybe that will change when Armstead and Ginn come back (assuming they can stay healthy for the playoff run).
No, I don't believe we should blow things up, or trade Brees, or anything extreme with this team. There are truly troll posts and then there are honest posts about what is currently going down on the field. Football is an emotional game, and the fans (short for fanatic) show emotion because they want their team to win.
But something is off with this team right now. I hope we get it figured out, because we need to go 3-0 to end the year.
A lot of "super fans" wanting to take away people's "fan cards" in here...whatever that means. Some posters express their thoughts as the game unfolds (like myself). Some keep to themselves, regardless of how they are feeling. What was obvious yesterday is the Saints came out flat as hell against an inferior opponent when they had everything to play for.
But it didn't start yesterday. This has been three weeks now of an inconsistent and unbalanced offense.
At home vs Atlanta - Brees threw for 171 yards and tossed 4 TDS, which was very good. Kamara would have ran wild on them had Payton fed him more. For whatever reason, he didn't. The Falcons fumbled the ball three times in the red zone, and we benefited from their mistakes. We fizzled out on offense numerous times. It wasn't a great game by us, but it was the Falcons on Thursday, so we took the W and smiled.
Away vs Cowboys - Awful game. Bad as it gets. Brees throws for 127 yards. LSU numbers. Defense plays great. Offense is a wreck. But hey, it happens sometimes. We'll demolish the Bucs.
Away vs Bucs - Played lifeless for basically two and half quarters. Again, Brees looks uncomfortable. We were losing 14-3 at halftime, and promptly turned the ball over to start the half. Brees throws for 201 yards. Another poor showing. We don't even try to run the ball. And then the block happens and it's like a switch turned on, and it was game over.
The point here is the Saints offense has struggled three games in a row now. Maybe that will change when Armstead and Ginn come back (assuming they can stay healthy for the playoff run).
No, I don't believe we should blow things up, or trade Brees, or anything extreme with this team. There are truly troll posts and then there are honest posts about what is currently going down on the field. Football is an emotional game, and the fans (short for fanatic) show emotion because they want their team to win.
But something is off with this team right now. I hope we get it figured out, because we need to go 3-0 to end the year.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:46 am to LSUZombie
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Please down vote if you agree.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:46 am to LSUZombie
Quit trying to justify being a sorry fan. It’s the nfl. It’s not going to all be blowouts. You said stupid comments and have been trying to justify them. Next time don’t melt so fast.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:48 am to tigersquad89
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Quit trying to justify being a sorry fan. It’s the nfl. It’s not going to all be blowouts. You said stupid comments and have been trying to justify them. Next time don’t melt so fast.
And this is what I'm talking about. Stupid stuff like this.
What makes one a "sorry fan"? Posting comments on a message board? Get out of here with this pussy shite.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:49 am to LSUZombie
Meh
It just feels like the tigertards from the rant on days like yesterday.
Seems that some posters only come here only when the saints are playing bad and want to pound their chest. It's like some are giddy when the Saints struggle.
It just feels like the tigertards from the rant on days like yesterday.
Seems that some posters only come here only when the saints are playing bad and want to pound their chest. It's like some are giddy when the Saints struggle.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:49 am to LSUZombie
I mean yeah. All the "ohhh we told you" takes are ridiculous. It's ok to criticize a team that looked like absolute dog shite in the first half because guess what they did. They bounced back and won. Those aren't mutually exclusive truths.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:50 am to tigersquad89
The big problem here is no one wants to discuss this team and their performance honestly.
We won yesterday, and that makes me happy. I just want to know why this team mailed it in for 2.5 quarters.
We won yesterday, and that makes me happy. I just want to know why this team mailed it in for 2.5 quarters.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:50 am to LSUZombie
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But something is off with this team right now. I hope we get it figured out, because we need to go 3-0 to end the year.
This isn’t rocket science. You can shut down the Saints O in one of two ways:
Disrupt the O line, and take away Thomas and Kamara.
Cowboys did it. Bucs did it in the first half.
And I’ll suggest the O line part is more us playing poorly than it is their defense playing great. Whiffed blocks all over.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:51 am to LSUZombie
The saints went play a divisional road game and looked sloppy on a wet field. The nfl is full of this kind of parity. Especially in divisional games. Too many of you dont realize this and get too emotional in game. Your expectation of running up 3 td victories every week isnt sustainable. No team has kept that going throughout an entire year. So congrats on trying to justify it, but more times than not it makes most of these gameday posters look like emotional pussies.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:51 am to notiger1997
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Meh
It just feels like the tigertards from the rant on days like yesterday.
Seems that some posters only come here only when the saints are playing bad and want to pound their chest. It's like some are giddy when the Saints struggle.
I do agree Game Day brings out some very random posters who then disappear. Gasoline on the fire.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:52 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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I mean yeah. All the "ohhh we told you" takes are ridiculous. It's ok to criticize a team that looked like absolute dog shite in the first half because guess what they did. They bounced back and won. Those aren't mutually exclusive truths.
Spot on.
Couple that with our showing in Dallas, and I don't blame anyone for wondering what is up with the offense.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:53 am to LSUZombie
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We won yesterday, and that makes me happy. I just want to know why this team mailed it in for 2.5 quarters.
The other team was too dysfunctional to hang on. One mistake and they just quit. The more mentally sound team persevered and hung on.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:53 am to LSUZombie
Lots of people here want to discuss team performance honestly and objectively. For awhile this has been one of the most objective sports boards I've read.
"This team is garbage."
"Fire everyone. Drew needs to retire now."
"This team is going to lose out."
Those are unjustified melts as you say, and really nothing more than posters thriving off of spreading negativity. Discussing crappy offensive line play the last two games, talking about why we can't take the top off of a defense, needing Ginn/Armstead back, etc. are all good discussion topics. All the other stuff is just annoying.
I don't necessarily agree with this. While the Saints have definitely played flat offensively over the last three games, the defense has played at an elite level without question. The Saints offense under Payton/Brees have always been streaky. When they're hot they're hot, and when they're not, you look at bad plays and just scratch your head (Brees' interception yesterday, for example). That being said, I think all of that is attributable to easily identified problems: bad offensive line play, lack of a deep threat, etc. It's not as if the team just started sucking all of the sudden.
The reason I'm not overly concerned about it is because a.) I know that a Brees/Payton offense can get hot immediately and then streak through the playoffs, and yesterday's second half could've been it, and b.) we have the defense to hold us over until that point. Numerous Saints teams in the past have faltered because of crap defense and the Brees/Payton machine coming off of a streak. If the defense keeps doing what they're doing, that's not going to happen this year.
"This team is garbage."
"Fire everyone. Drew needs to retire now."
"This team is going to lose out."
Those are unjustified melts as you say, and really nothing more than posters thriving off of spreading negativity. Discussing crappy offensive line play the last two games, talking about why we can't take the top off of a defense, needing Ginn/Armstead back, etc. are all good discussion topics. All the other stuff is just annoying.
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But something is off with this team right now. I hope we get it figured out, because we need to go 3-0 to end the year.
I don't necessarily agree with this. While the Saints have definitely played flat offensively over the last three games, the defense has played at an elite level without question. The Saints offense under Payton/Brees have always been streaky. When they're hot they're hot, and when they're not, you look at bad plays and just scratch your head (Brees' interception yesterday, for example). That being said, I think all of that is attributable to easily identified problems: bad offensive line play, lack of a deep threat, etc. It's not as if the team just started sucking all of the sudden.
The reason I'm not overly concerned about it is because a.) I know that a Brees/Payton offense can get hot immediately and then streak through the playoffs, and yesterday's second half could've been it, and b.) we have the defense to hold us over until that point. Numerous Saints teams in the past have faltered because of crap defense and the Brees/Payton machine coming off of a streak. If the defense keeps doing what they're doing, that's not going to happen this year.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:54 am to LSUZombie
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But something is off with this team right now. I hope we get it figured out, because we need to go 3-0 to end the year.
Something is off with every nfc team. Even the hot cowboys aren’t exactly lighting the world on fire. If they get jumped on by 10+ no way in hell Dak leads them back.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:56 am to St Augustine
It's called "end-of-the-year-we-just-did-3-games-in-11-days" fatigue.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:56 am to bluemoons
You'll end up be crucified for this thread but you're 100% right. They looked like shite for 6 quarters and it looked like it was going to be 2 full games until the blocked punt.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:00 am to notiger1997
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It just feels like the tigertards from the rant on days like yesterday.
Seems that some posters only come here only when the saints are playing bad and want to pound their chest. It's like some are giddy when the Saints struggle.
Nailed it. There are many who only post when the team isn’t playing well. It’s the negative, defeatist, loser mentality they live their lives with manifesting itself.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:02 am to geauxtigers87
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They looked like shite for 6 quarters and it looked like it was going to be 2 full games until the blocked punt.
Agreed. I was very concerned during the second quarter yesterday, but in my homerism, I honestly still believed the Saints were going to win that game. Sometimes a play like that is all it takes to get an offense out of a slump. Once the Saints scored 7 after the block, I knew the Bucs were screwed, homerism aside. Brees just feeds off of stuff like that.
Also, while the offense was flat in the first half, you could tell the offense was kind of getting it together on the drive that stalled for the field goal. Short, quick passes against a zone are responsible for a whole lot of the Saints' points this year, and that's what that drive consisted of. It just stalled, and then the bad energy just snowballed with the pick right before the half.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:03 am to lsutigers1992
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The other team was too dysfunctional to hang on. One mistake and they just quit. The more mentally sound team persevered and hung on.
I'll agree with that and noticed it as well. The Bucs were on the verge of collapse. The moment something went wrong for them, it was over. You could tell by the way Jameis and the center exchanged words. They were not a team.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:03 am to BananaHammock
I think there needs to be a differentiation between pissed off reactions and sweeping generalizations.
There's a difference between
"What the frick was Brees thinking on that pick?"
And
"Brees needs to retire, it's time for Teddy."
There's a difference between
"What the frick was Brees thinking on that pick?"
And
"Brees needs to retire, it's time for Teddy."
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