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The Ryan Ramczyk situation
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:26 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:26 am
As we all know his future is uncertain because of the health of his knees.
Also making things difficult is his 39mill cap hit if he has to retire.
He’s a there any avenue to have him medically IR’d for 2024 to rest his knees and defer his cap hit till 2025 if he can return or at the time medically retire him and deal with the contract at that point.
I have a feeling he’s done or at least done as a starting RT for us. Just trying to understand if we can get any cap relief in 2024 but giving him a mulligan year so to speak.
Also making things difficult is his 39mill cap hit if he has to retire.
He’s a there any avenue to have him medically IR’d for 2024 to rest his knees and defer his cap hit till 2025 if he can return or at the time medically retire him and deal with the contract at that point.
I have a feeling he’s done or at least done as a starting RT for us. Just trying to understand if we can get any cap relief in 2024 but giving him a mulligan year so to speak.
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:27 am to Snipe
Can surgery repair the issue?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:29 am to msstate7
Not that I have heard. It’s degenerative. There may be management options but don’t think it can be “fixed”.
My year off theory is in hopes that rest and a year off of the grind would f and NFL season can somehow slow the degeneration and maybe prolong his career. Obviously that you have to deal with the negative side of being off and out of full contact NFL play for a year.
My year off theory is in hopes that rest and a year off of the grind would f and NFL season can somehow slow the degeneration and maybe prolong his career. Obviously that you have to deal with the negative side of being off and out of full contact NFL play for a year.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 9:31 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:31 am to Snipe
Underhill reported last offseason that RR was on borrowed time and that the end was most likely near for his career. It's a shame but it is what it is.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:39 am to bstaceyau19
He was already a guy that football didn't mean everything to him. I am sure he will retire and maintain as much functionality in his knee as possible.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:40 am to msstate7
It sounded like there was barely any cartilage left in his knee
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:45 am to Snipe
maybe we can put him at nose tackle too.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:47 am to Snipe
quote:
As we all know his future is uncertain because of the health of his knees.
Also making things difficult is his 39mill cap hit if he has to retire.
He’s a there any avenue to have him medically IR’d for 2024 to rest his knees and defer his cap hit till 2025 if he can return or at the time medically retire him and deal with the contract at that point.
I have a feeling he’s done or at least done as a starting RT for us. Just trying to understand if we can get any cap relief in 2024 but giving him a mulligan year so to speak.
You mean just pay him for 2024 as if he were healthy. Yeah, we could do that. Of course, there's a cap implication for that in 2024 and you have to address it again in 2025 on way or another.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:25 am to Snipe
If he’s ready to retire then hopefully he plays ball and reduces his 2024 salary to the minimum then we carry him until June 1 when he officially retires and spreads his cap hit over ‘24 & ‘25.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:28 am to St Stooge
Wonder if we could do some shady stuff like offer him a saints' media job if he retires at a nice contract with him giving back some bonus to help with cap. I'm sure there's rules against stuff like this, but maybe not
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:51 am to moneyg
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You mean just pay him for 2024 as if he were healthy. Yeah, we could do that. Of course, there's a cap implication for that in 2024 and you have to address it again in 2025 on way or another.
Yeah that just ends up kicking major can to 2026
Restructuring Ram and Latt was the literal backbone of Loomis's cap strategy and we may have to accelerate the timeline on both this year, which is scary.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:58 am to msstate7
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Wonder if we could do some shady stuff like offer him a saints' media job if he retires at a nice contract with him giving back some bonus to help with cap. I'm sure there's rules against stuff like this, but maybe not
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:00 pm to Snipe
These are the contracts that are gonna kill us, similar to early - mid 2010s.
We gotta not touch it and figure it out
We gotta not touch it and figure it out
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yeah that just ends up kicking major can to 2026 Restructuring Ram and Latt was the literal backbone of Loomis's cap strategy and we may have to accelerate the timeline on both this year, which is scary.
Totally irresponsible of Loomis going out to sign Carr. We needed a baker mayfield type one year deals for a couple seasons to get the cap under control.
I know slot if people were worried about the Ram extension for this very reason. Hope he was smart to put some safeguards in it at the time. Or that was another poor decision by Loomis.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:06 pm to Townedrunkard
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Totally irresponsible of Loomis going out to sign Carr.
In all the posting about the Carr signing last year, I straight up said that if something happened to Latt or Ram, there would be major consequences in terms of the cap and I fear what all we have to do.
We are likely going to have to extend players we need to cut solely to push their dead cap into 27 and 28. Old, less productive guys like Hill, Mathieu, Maye, etc. Taking up roster spots (that should go to cheap draft picks) and destroying future caps.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:05 pm to Snipe
I wonder why artificial Knee isn't a solution. I have no cartilage left and that is what they are telling me. Of course I ain't leaning on 320lb Defensive lineman for a living either.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:22 pm to msstate7
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Can surgery repair the issue?
Absolutely. He can have a total knee replacement or partial if it’s only the inside where he’s deficient.
With some rehab he will be pain free and function very highly. He will be a mean pickle baller.
He just can’t play tackle football afterwards.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:34 pm to msstate7
The accelerated Zac Strief package
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:00 pm to msstate7
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Can surgery repair the issue?
Stem cells and hgh at overseas clinics if anything
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:17 pm to Snipe
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As we all know his future is uncertain because of the health of his knees.
Also making things difficult is his 39mill cap hit if he has to retire.
He’s a there any avenue to have him medically IR’d for 2024 to rest his knees and defer his cap hit till 2025 if he can return or at the time medically retire him and deal with the contract at that point.
I have a feeling he’s done or at least done as a starting RT for us. Just trying to understand if we can get any cap relief in 2024 but giving him a mulligan year so to speak.
The cap hit would be OK. If he was to retire first thing that would happen is lowering his base salary to the minimum, that'll drop 16 million off his current 27 million cap hit.
Then, they'll wait until after June 1st to cut him, that'll split the prorated cap hit over 2 years.
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