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re: Team still shopping players, another deal expected soon
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:22 am to HollierThanThou
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:22 am to HollierThanThou
Toon and Vacarro
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:25 am to BlacknGold
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stills best year wasnt better than cruz's worst year (when healthy). cruz would be an upgrade over stills.
sigh
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:25 am to Lester Earl
Im not a fan of Cruz. Not sure the Giants would even entertain trading OBJ, or what it would cost.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:26 am to whodatfan
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Im not a fan of Cruz. Not sure the Giants would even entertain trading OBJ, or what it would cost.
nor am I.
They will not trade ODB. He will be a Giant for a long time.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to whodatfan
U can forget OBJ. might get Cruz. We can watch some TD salsa dancing!!!!!
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to whodatfan
quote:
I see your point on him. I agree he backloads contracts, which is a common practice among GMs. Backload, restructure or trade, cut, rinse repeat. You act like Loomis is alone in this contract game. You push the loomis thing to the point of agenda. Its getting old. If you're hell bent to prove a point on him, go crunch numbers and history on the large majority of other GMs and get back to me with concrete proof that Mickey is indeed a bottom tier, unqualified NFL GM and I will give you your due.
I think Mickey has done a fantastic job of making it all work. Our biggest problem is we've not drafted well as of late, and we've tried to make up for that with questionable FA signings and rewarding the wrong people.
It appears as though Loomis, Payton, and Ryan have acknowledged this and are trying to do something about it. In the meantime, they are working around a Brees restructure which wont screw us later on down the road. After all, don't Flacco and Ryan have bigger cap hits than Brees' current contract?
What more does anyone want? If we have a good draft this year, with an improved locker room, whats not to like? It's not like this team is devoid of talent.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to whodatfan
OBJ isn't going anywhere.
Cruz is Eli's safety blanket, im not even sure he'd be on the block.
Cruz is Eli's safety blanket, im not even sure he'd be on the block.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
I'm not a fan of stills leaving but I do like Cruz. I'm not sure what we are looking at right now in trades and draft though. Hopefully there's a good plan in place.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:27 am to whodatfan
quote:
Not sure the Giants would even entertain trading OBJ, or what it would cost.
It would have to be something so outlandish that they had no choice...like 3 1st's
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
Cruz had what one, two good years back in 2012 or so? He's the answer!
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:28 am to GMoney2600
I thought eveyrone was joking about OBJ, but seriously, why would NY even consider moving him?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:29 am to Rickety Cricket
Cruz is also playing with Eli. Not saying one thing or another, just pointing that out.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:31 am to Lester Earl
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If you dont see that everything ive ever said about Loomis is coming to the forefront this offseason
I agree its worse this year but we are in win now mode and have been and will be for the next couple of years.
Who is surprised at this?
We are not building a new team. We are not building to win 3-5 years from now. We are trying desperately to win again with Brees. Being cautious and very prudent doesn't get us back to the Super Bowl at this point. Whats so hard to understand.
Your not a guru on this. Everyone and his stray cat knows we are in a win now mode and that changes what CSP and Loomis are doing.
I will say if all this doesn't show a good result next year CSP his staff and Loomis are all on a very hot seat as they should be.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:32 am to Lester Earl
quote:no, and I don't think they are doing that.
with Brees' age, i dont think they can mortgage a whole year
we're in a win now mode(3-4 year window) and there is clearly a change in offensive philosophy. I do not want to draft a WR, and I've seen a shite load of scrubs play really well in NOLA (jamal jones, terrance copper, etc.)
I think by the end we'll have upgraded our line significantly (adding unger is big and I suspect we go hog heavy in the first 2 rounds), we've upgraded our secondary...our backfield is freaking nasty
things are playing out nicely, but I'm reserving judgement until I see what they've done across the boards...so far I'm impressed, this is the offseason I wanted after 2013 season when I saw the makeup of the NFC division winners.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:33 am to Rickety Cricket
he went for 1500 in his 2nd year after not playing as a rookie. He has tapered off since then. He's a good route runner, but he's always hurt. and he had drop problems last year when he was healthy. Id still rather Stills over him any day of the week. Age, efficiency, contract, all in his favor.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:35 am to Lester Earl
Cruz makes sense because of a real or perceived need at WR
We're speculating on a trade with the giants
everyone points out OBJ as the most desired player on that roster (even though we all know that's not happening)
cruz as a player that makes sense
but who said we're getting a player?
I've been caught off guard with this entire offseason so I'll let my imagination run wild today
We're speculating on a trade with the giants
everyone points out OBJ as the most desired player on that roster (even though we all know that's not happening)
cruz as a player that makes sense
but who said we're getting a player?
I've been caught off guard with this entire offseason so I'll let my imagination run wild today
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:35 am to sicboy
quote:I know why people are saying OBJ.
I thought eveyrone was joking about OBJ, but seriously, why would NY even consider moving him?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:38 am to DelU249
i dont know what Cruz gets paid, but im guessing it doesnt fit our budget.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:39 am to BlacknGold
I don't hold grudges. I think Loomis has only had to make one personnel decision since his arrival and it was a slam dunk
Sean Payton
I also think he fits it all really well, and I have nothing but positive things to say about this offseason, but that doesn't mean he's above criticism
Sean Payton
I also think he fits it all really well, and I have nothing but positive things to say about this offseason, but that doesn't mean he's above criticism
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:39 am to Lester Earl
those things can be reworked. look at the miami trade. ellerbe had a very sizable contract but part of the trade was he agreed to rework it.
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