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re: Team still shopping players, another deal expected soon
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
because he's an awesome wide receiver...I don't know what he makes and what to expect given his injury
I know who I want, it's just we're not getting him unless the giants FO is full of imbeciles
I know who I want, it's just we're not getting him unless the giants FO is full of imbeciles
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
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Victor Cruz? huh? what am i missing. why do we want him?
i actually didnt get super excited about this notion like most on here right away. however, looking at his career, he would be a great get for us. multiple 1,000 yard seasons with eli throwing to him. he would immediately become our #1 and from the reports from the giants about him, they arent that wild after scoring big with OBJ
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:03 am to moneyg
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The Saints seem to be clearly positioning themselves for 2016. Moving Brees just doesn't make much sense.
with Brees' age, i dont think they can mortgage a whole year.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:03 am to sicboy
Could not Imagine them letting Cam go.
Junior though is another matter.
Kenny seems to have too much talent. Hope the purge gets his mind right. Lets hope Browner is the older brother who kicks his arse in gear.
Browner and Vaccaro playing at a high level in the secondary is gonna hurt some people.
And thats legally Roger. Legally
Junior though is another matter.
Kenny seems to have too much talent. Hope the purge gets his mind right. Lets hope Browner is the older brother who kicks his arse in gear.
Browner and Vaccaro playing at a high level in the secondary is gonna hurt some people.
And thats legally Roger. Legally
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:06 am to goatmilker
Maybe they'll trade Jean-Baptiste since he's only had a redshirt year. Still has four years to play four.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:06 am to Lester Earl
quote:I've been pretty annoyed at his timing more than anything. It still blows my mind how he waited so long on drew, which cost us carl nicks (who I like a shite ton better than jahri evans)
If you dont see that everything ive ever said about Loomis is coming to the forefront this offseason, then your head is stuck up your arse. It was only a matter of time.
he also gave Charles grant that ridiculous contract.
I know jimmy is kind of a punk, but it's not like he's the first big time player we have that has become pissed off about negotiations, etc. (even drew was getting pissed, how you even let that happen is beyond me)
he does a great job of fitting it all in given the ridiculous amount of money we pay, but fricking hate that we do not let guys walk. How do you let carl nicks walk and yet give the contracts to other guys who aren't work his jock strap
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:08 am to DelU249
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because he's an awesome wide receiver...I don't know what he makes and what to expect given his injury
he was awesome for 1 year 5 years ago. Kenny Stills is better than him. Hopefully they aren't that dumb.
Im not even high on Vaccaro, but he is more valuable than Cruz.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:09 am to Lester Earl
Where are you guys hearing this Giants/Vaccaro stuff? Are you all just playing internetAdam Shcefter?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:09 am to Lester Earl
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If you dont see that everything ive ever said about Loomis is coming to the forefront this offseason, then your head is stuck up your arse. It was only a matter of time.
You're so stupid, you celebrate the guy for fixing his own mistakes, over and over. And even when it obvious what is going on, you still cant see it
Last year we went for broke with the Byrd signing and it didn't work. Gotta pay the credit card bill sometime. I thought Loomis was trying to set it up so that the team imploded when Brees falls off a cliff. As soon as Brees can no longer plau, cut/trade everyone and play with scrubs helmed by Ryan Griffin for a season, then draft Brees replacment and try to build a team around him with lots of cap space/maneuverability.
That can still be in place for 2016 where we could trade Brees and only take a $7.5M cap hit. Staggering the cuts/trades/roster overhaul over two years allows us to acquire young talent.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:10 am to DelU249
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he also gave Charles grant that ridiculous contract.
someone holds grudges. no way people learn from mistakes like that right?
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hate that we do not let guys walk. How do you let carl nicks walk and yet give the contracts to other guys who aren't work his jock strap
carl nicks was horrible in tampa even before his toes started falling off. you mention charles grant and then hamper on carl nicks. seems like he avoided grant 2.0 there.
so is the argument you would rather see guys walk straight up then try and get something when the time comes? getting a pick for grubbs was pretty damn good considering we probably wouldve cut him. the stills trade was just too good to not take it and run.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
Until the injury, he basically had three straight 1000 yard seasons
I'd say he's still good even if his numbers have slightly decreased
I'd say he's still good even if his numbers have slightly decreased
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
Cruz was also primarily a slot WR. I don't have the percentages of how often he lined up on the outside (I'm sure he played in a lot of 2WR formations), but he may not be as effective on the outside. Ditto for Cooks.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:13 am to htran90
quote:Shows how much Holder pays attention.
Trading Galette now, after restructuring loses us 11mil...
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:13 am to Lester Earl
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he was awesome for 1 year 5 years ago. Kenny Stills is better than him.
youve proven how baseless your opinions are now. thanks.
stills who has never had over 1,000 yards is better than a guy who has done it multiple times?
i know you are probably trolling but allow me to actually bring logic and numbers into the discussion:
Cruz stats
Stills stats
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am to Brageous
1k really isnt sacred anymore, imo. Im not saying he's bad, but i dont think you trade a young safety for him, especially after you just dealt Stills away. They could have kept Stills, and got Vaccaro for prob the same pick. If he is truly on the block.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:14 am to Lester Earl
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If you dont see that everything ive ever said about Loomis is coming to the forefront this offseason, then your head is stuck up your arse. It was only a matter of time.
This wasn't a surprise to anyone...including Loomis.
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You're so stupid, you celebrate the guy for fixing his own mistakes, over and over. And even when it obvious what is going on, you still cant see it
I don't think Loomis made too many mistakes. I don't think he was ever the guy making personnel decisions. He just managed the cap and did a good job of it.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:15 am to Lester Earl
I see your point on him. I agree he backloads contracts, which is a common practice among GMs. Backload, restructure or trade, cut, rinse repeat. You act like Loomis is alone in this contract game. You push the loomis thing to the point of agenda. Its getting old. If you're hell bent to prove a point on him, go crunch numbers and history on the large majority of other GMs and get back to me with concrete proof that Mickey is indeed a bottom tier, unqualified NFL GM and I will give you your due.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
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They could have kept Stills, and got Vaccaro for prob the same pick
stills best year wasnt better than cruz's worst year (when healthy). cruz would be an upgrade over stills.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:21 am to HollierThanThou
Toon and Vacarro
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:22 am to BlacknGold
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youve proven how baseless your opinions are now. thanks.
stills who has never had over 1,000 yards is better than a guy who has done it multiple times?
Age- Stills 23 Cruz 28
Cruz yardage by year
1500
1092
998
337
see a pattern there?
Let's consider he is 5 years older, and injury prone.
Stills
641
931
see a pattern there?
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Stills' career 82% catch% on balls thrown to him behind LOS + 0-20 yd range is best in the NFL since at least 2007
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Kenny Stills also isn't just a deep threat. Had fourth-highest catch rate (78.8 percent) among WRs last season. Not bad fit for Tannehill.
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From the 10 catchable deep (20+ yards in the air) passes thrown to Kenny Stills in 2014 he produced 9 catches for 370 yards with 2TDs
23 and getting better every year?
again, why trade him if you double back and trade your 3rd year safety for Victor Cruz? I don't think Cruz is bad by any means, but he isn't the 1500yd WR everyone remembers him as. He's a very good slot WR though.
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