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re: Spagnoulo to be new DC (per Jay Glazer)

Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:14 pm to
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Well, we wont have much cap room to do much with our defense.

I wouldnt get too excited. If he can have a "bend but dont break" defense like Gregg Williams, we should be in line to win 11+ games again next year. Williams has been wrongfully vilified. Looking at the big picture, we lost at San Fran because of 5 turnovers, not because they couldn't guard Vernon Davis.



The radio waves this week have been all about "what can we do with this defense now". Everyone is throwing out all these wild ideas, 3-4 defense, moving Malcom Jenkins to CB, cutting Roman Harper, etc etc. People, people, people....We wont have the cap room to change our defense much. We must hope that guys like Martez Wilson can step up should we have to cut Vilma, or that we can find a solid DT in the draft or cheap in free agency to replace Franklin/Rodgers. Hope that someone can fill in the #3 CB spot should we have to let Porter walk.

A lot of our personnel next year will have to be filled internally or through the draft. But i think it is enough talent to do what i mentioned before; bend but not break, and let our offense win it when it matters.


eta: not a rant at you winkface. just talking in general.



wow, intelligent, rational thoughts from lester. I'm impressed. You are a really good poster when you do more than post gifs
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:15 pm to
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I wouldnt get too excited. If he can have a "bend but dont break" defense like Gregg Williams, we should be in line to win 11+ games again next year. Williams has been wrongfully vilified. Looking at the big picture, we lost at San Fran because of 5 turnovers, not because they couldn't guard Vernon Davis.


Yes and no. Yes the 5 turnovers is what really killed us, but he had a habit of being hyper-aggressive in very predictable ways.

Posted by FanInLA
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:16 pm to
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@JonVilma51
Jonathan Vilma
I think it's official, Steve spagnoulo is r new defensive coordinator. I look forward to winning with him


Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:18 pm to
all of this before the official saints or a saints beat writer breaks it.

slackers.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:18 pm to
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wow, intelligent, rational thoughts from lester. I'm impressed. You are a really good poster when you do more than post gifs


he's a really old guy and he gets cranky at times...when he isn't having senior moments he's excellent
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:19 pm to
fricking right!
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:20 pm to
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Yes the 5 turnovers is what really killed us, but he had a habit of being hyper-aggressive in very predictable ways.




the last 2 plays of the game for them, he had people in position to make plays. Malcom Jenkins ran up on the 2nd to last place with a horrible angle, and allowed Davis to get to the outside and gain 20 extra yards.

on the last play he had, what looked to me, Shanle covering in man, and Harper over the top with another defender near by. We are spoiled by SHarpers 09' instincts at safety, but that was the 2nd time in the game Harper was late to a ball that probably should have been broken up.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:23 pm to
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on the last play he had, what looked to me, Shanle covering in man, and Harper over the top with another defender near by.


That made me throw up in my mouth.

ETA: I honestly can't remember much of the end of the game because I was so on my nerves, and I was drinking like a fish. I do remember earlier in the year we let the Falcons and the Titans back in the game late after going up by two scores. I was afraid of that happening again in close games when our offense wasn't clicking. Something about teams running up tempo on us was killing us.
This post was edited on 1/19/12 at 5:26 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Shanle covering in man


stop right there.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:24 pm to
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official saints or a saints beat writer breaks it.


official saints won't announce it until it's...well...official.

saints beat writers don't have the contacts Jay has
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:24 pm to


Hellz Yeahz.

For the Gregg Williams haters:

LINK

For the Gregg Williams defenders:

LINK
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:25 pm to
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that was the 2nd time in the game Harper was late to a ball that probably should have been broken up.


This and I don't think Shanle got deep enough in his drop (I don't think he was man on Davis, I think he was playing underneath zone) leaving tight window to throw through, which A Smith made a hell of a throw.
Posted by Pendulum
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:25 pm to
I'm all in on the spag train now. Hopefully he'll bring some nasty defense to the b&g
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:26 pm to
they still havent even announced it, only the all knowing fletcher mackel has said anything.

im sure the triplett and duncan are scrambling for details they can break
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:27 pm to
Larry Holder just confirmed, via Saints source, on twitter.
Posted by LsuSaintsMan
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:29 pm to
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Looking at the big picture, we lost at San Fran because of 5 turnovers, not because they couldn't guard Vernon Davis.
while this is true, no one can excuse the coverage on VD to end the game.

Also with as many unsuccessful blitz attempts as we had this year it left the middle of the field wide open.... See both the Lions games, Packers game, and 1st Falcons game(Harry Douglas destroyed us) for examples of this.
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:29 pm to
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they still havent even announced it, only the all knowing fletcher mackel has said anything.
oh and Vilma.
Posted by Rose City Rambler
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 5:31 pm to
Great news!
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