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re: Sources: Sean Payton approaches Bill Parcells

Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:30 pm to
I know it's laughable, but i would Rather him than Romo..At least he can make it to the playoffs.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:30 pm to
You continue to argue about something (Bill Parcells past coaching/GM tenures) that'S irrelevant to what he would be doing for us. If you can't see that, you are an idiot.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:31 pm to
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they were 1-15 the year before.
And they got better? WOW, improvement!!!

Like I said, Pennington was temporary fixed, which proved to be true.

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At least get your facts straight. They won 6 games last year

I said TWICE that I wasn't sure how many games they won. Nice try.

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They never found their franchise QB

No because they hired the guy who goes for the Olinemen, while the guy they passed on went elsewhere and got his franchise QB. They never found one because he was busy drafting Pat White in the 2nd round, and no QBs in the 1st.

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They never found their franchise QB. Still winning 25 games over the 3 years coming off a 1 win season is impressive to me. Yes, I am hanging my hat on that


The team was mocked, laughed at basically as he was leaving. That's good? That's impressive after a 3 or 4 year stint?

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:32 pm to
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You continue to argue about something (Bill Parcells past coaching/GM tenures) that'S irrelevant to what he would be doing for us. If you can't see that, you are an idiot
So even though LE is arguing the same irrelevant stuff, he doesn't get called an idiot just because you agree with him?

That's the exact logic I'd expect from someone who can't hold rational discussions without resorting to namecalling. Par for the course.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34158 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:33 pm to
Psh your right, at least he can get out of the 1st round
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:33 pm to
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I know it's laughable, but i would Rather him than Romo..At least he can make it to the playoffs

Didn't Brees miss 2 straight playoffs a couple of years ago?

Good thing the Saints don't follow that logic where we rate all QBs based on playoff appearances.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:38 pm to
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So even though LE is arguing the same irrelevant stuff, he doesn't get called an idiot just because you agree with him?


I'm not sure why Lester chose to play tetherball with you, but he pretty much reiterated my point:

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The Saints wouldnt hire him to oversee the team that way anyway. So it's really moot.


To me, this is a classic case of "I made a statement that was off base, but rather than concede the point, I'll just hammer away at it for a while." It's very old school Chad.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:38 pm to
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And they got better? WOW, improvement!!!



Are you mocking someone turning a 1-15 team into a very competitive team over the 3 years he was there?


Look, Im not even a Parcells lover boy. But it's obvious that you have something against him if you can't even acknowledge the job he has done.


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No because they hired the guy who goes for the Olinemen, while the guy they passed on went elsewhere and got his franchise QB. They never found one because he was busy drafting Pat White in the 2nd round, and no QBs in the 1st.


Winning 11 games after a 1-15 win season was the worst thing to happen to them. But you're going to knock one of the best LT's in the league? Lol. Yea, franchise LT's just grow on trees.


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The team was mocked, laughed at basically as he was leaving. That's good? That's impressive after a 3 or 4 year stint?




He only made decisions for 2 years. Again, at least get your facts straight.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:42 pm to
Yea, this is all pretty stupid. His resume' speaks for itself. I don't even have to defend it. Apparently turning bad teams around in very short period isn't considered a success unless you win multiple playoff games and super bowls.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:44 pm to
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Didn't Brees miss 2 straight playoffs a couple of years ago? Good thing the Saints don't follow that logic where we rate all QBs based on playoff appearances.


Was Romo ever a superbowl MVP?

If you want to argue the Production with Brees Vs Romo...i mean, I'd love to hear your opening argument.

That logic comes into play just from a fan's perspective. Believe me, I'm glad we are sitting high on the mountain with Brees. If we didn't have him though..and the only two QBs available were Romo and Tebow..I'd trust Tebow over Romo not just based on "playoff appearance wins", but he just seems like he wants to win more..and I dont even really like him.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:49 pm to
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Are you mocking someone turning a 1-15 team into a very competitive team over the 3 years he was there
They started 0-7 last year. How competitive is that?

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But it's obvious that you have something against him if you can't even acknowledge the job he has done.
The job is to build a franchise in a league wher parity exists and teams turn around and get much better much faster all the time. And after 3 years, the team was left pretty shitty. They're not good.

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He only made decisions for 2 years. Again, at least get your facts straight


2007-2010, that's closer to 3 years. All of 2008, all of 2009 and most of 2010, officially.

Not to mention, when he gave up day to day control, obviously I don't know for a fact, but LeBatard mentioned on his radio show multiple times that he was still making all big decisions for some time after.

So yea, 3-4 seasons sounds about right, since it was over 3 years. So, it's probably not a good idea to tell me to get my facts striaght when they're more accurate than yours,e ven if the part about controlling after he stepped away isn't true.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:51 pm to
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Apparently turning bad teams around in very short period
I still don't get how it's "turned around" when you leave 3 years later and the team is shitty. I don't know anyone who thinks this team is good or in a good position. Not one person.

if that's good and a successful job, then so be it.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79567 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:53 pm to
Are we just arguing Parcells now, or his impact on the Saints? I'm sure it's been stated that he wouldn't be asked to rebuild anything. Just hold down the fort.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:54 pm to
IG'NET
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79567 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:55 pm to
You should just let this go.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16299 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:55 pm to
One would have to be a fricking idiot to downplay what Parcell's presence would bring to the Saints franchise that is still reeling from a below-the-belt shot, but not down for the count.

At every stop, Parcells' teams improved while he was there. Downplaying his accomplishments because the teams are no longer competitive after he left is purely asinine.

Parcells' wealth of football wisdom & experience is the equivalent of having Aristotle on the gridiron. For a team loaded with talent, in dire need of leadership & guidance, there is no better prescription.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:56 pm to
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The job is to build a franchise in a league wher parity exists and teams turn around and get much better much faster all the time. And after 3 years, the team was left pretty shitty. They're not good.


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They started 0-7 last year. How competitive is that?


Don't think it's fair to hold last years 0-7 start against parcells, and in same post acknowledge how parity rules in the NFL, and how quickly team can go from bad to good and good to bad.

I know lebatard still takes shots at parcells all the time but in today's NFL, blaming last season on him seems a reach IMO


/that said I don't want parcells in NO, but I wouldnt be aghast if he did come here.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79567 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:56 pm to
And then there was LSUFreek.



/debate
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290750 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:57 pm to
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I still don't get how it's "turned around" when you leave 3 years later and the team is shitty. I don't know anyone who thinks this team is good or in a good position. Not one person.

if that's good and a successful job, then so be it



simple question; was the team better when he left than it was when he got there?

If you address anything in this post, please answer the question above


The 09 dolphins went 7-9, but they were extremely competitive. They were in position to beat both teams that played in the SB that year.


You keep mentioning 2011 but he had been long gone since taking a step back in 2010.


So yes, he had success there. To go from the worst team in the league to an average team that competes most weeks without great QB play is not a knock on him.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/26/12 at 2:58 pm to
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Parcells' wealth of football wisdom & experience is the equivalent of having Aristotle on the gridiron. For a team loaded with talent, in dire need of leadership & guidance, there is no better prescription.


And not only that, but if i were a player and i saw that if he was to actually come out of retirement for me..possibly shelf his HOF chances for 5 more years for me. If i were a player that (among many other things this year) would inspire the hell out of me to win.
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