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re: So why did we overpay Etienne so much?

Posted on 3/12/26 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 12:43 pm to
Miller will have a hard time making the team this year. I know CKM didn’t pick AK or Miller and he will be adding one or more RBs to the team in just a few weeks.
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:02 pm to
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Most of you dumasses just don’t like facts I spit out.


Your assertion the saints overpaid is an opinion, not a fact.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:05 pm to
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I'd say Kendre is the most likely RB to get traded now
My instinct is to say "traded for what?!" but we just got a pick swap for the worst punter in the league. Mickey apparently knows who the suckers are.
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:20 pm to
lol get a clue
Posted by Split2874
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:02 pm to
I love the notion we could have gotten this player or that player for a few more million

How do you know that?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:06 pm to
Muh Nuss bus

Posted by MannyG
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Yeah, I agree, total overreach in signing Etienne by Loomis and co., I don't know what he was thinking of. You have an elite RB on the team in Kendre Miller imo if you give him enough carries, but they've used this kid all wrong since they've had him causing him to get stupid injuries that are serious. Using him to return kickoffs, I mean what the hell, you can use a scrub WR for that. In the limited time I saw Kendre Miller in there at RB you could see the elite explosion in him hitting holes and bursting through them like Alvin Kamara used to do. Alvin Kamara is a descending RB now, but it's Kendre Miller's time now to shine if you use him correctly and stop getting the man hurt before you end his career before it even starts. It was a waste of time to bring in Etienne because now he'll be taking away carries from Kendre Miller. Smh


Find a team that loves Kendre Miller like this guy, trade him to them for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Reality is that team doesn't exist.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 2:55 pm to
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My instinct is to say "traded for what?!" but we just got a pick swap for the worst punter in the league.

I'd imagine Miller/ AK have value around a 5th/ 6th. I'd take our 4th back from Denver for Kendre + 5th/6th. Doubt we clear a 4th though.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 3:29 pm to
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lol get a clue


lol you can’t fail harder
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14976 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:55 pm to
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And not fitting our rebuild at all. How much will he cost after that with doubs getting 70 mil for 3 years lol. You are so shortsighted.


This is exactly the stupid shite I’m talking about. We signed a 31 year old linebacker and a running back on a 2nd contract that’s 27 to big money win now deals. But yea a 25 year old talented #1 receiver doesn’t fit our ‘rebuild’ but I’m shortsighted lol.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:16 pm to
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We signed a 31 year old linebacker and a running back on a 2nd contract that’s 27 to big money win now deals. But yea a 25 year old talented #1 receiver doesn’t fit our ‘rebuild’ but I’m shortsighted lol.


This is exactly the stupid shite I'm talking about with you. Both of those contracts are pennies compared to what pickens will make. they are big money relative to position group, not the cap.

If pickens walks (which we cannot control) you are looking for a new wr and back to square one, you spent a draft pick to get him for two years and accomplished maybe one playoff run with him?

This is even more ridiculous coming from a saints "fan" because we made a fricking living off of making lesser wrs better for 15 fricking years, which shough has already shown a propensity of being able to do, but sure let's give 150 mil to one player, frick our cap and pray we can figure it out with the other 6 positions we still need to improve at.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:16 pm to
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But yea a 25 year old talented #1 receiver doesn’t fit our ‘rebuild’ but I’m shortsighted lol.
Having 2 talented #1 WR's costing $30mil does not fit our rebuild. We were never going to pay 2 WR's big money. How is that working out for the Bengals?

Etienne wasn't an overpay, its market value. He is the 7th highest paid RB. 3 elite RBs on rookie contracts. So he's #10. He could be #10-#12 after next offseason. 3 RBs got paid in '24/'25 before the market increased and they still are within $2mil.

Etienne is a top 10-15 RB and is paid like #10-#15. Saying its an overpay is 100% just your opinion.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:59 pm to
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This is even more ridiculous coming from a saints "fan" because we made a fricking living off of making lesser wrs better for 15 fricking years, which shough has already shown a propensity of being able to do, but sure let's give 150 mil to one player, frick our cap and pray we can figure it out with the other 6 positions we still need to improve at.


You just said it would be stupid b/c he doesn’t fit our rebuild. In three years Etienne and Ellis will be gone. Shough will be under 30 still, and Pickens will still be 28 and in his prime. Even if we franchised him a year or two, we still getting a 3rd back in a comp pick or probably more in a trade. Franchised receivers go for firsts all the time. Broke down DJ Moore just went for a 2nd lol. He never had a year like Pickens just had.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14976 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:05 pm to
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Etienne is a top 10-15 RB and is paid like #10-#15. Saying its an overpay is 100% just your opinion.

This says differently. He will probably still make more than Love depending on where he is drafted. This has him at #7.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/player/_/year/2026/position/rb/sort/contract_average

It is my opinion, I just don’t believe in paying running backs. Prefer to draft in the middle rounds and let them walk after the first contract is up.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:07 pm to
the running backs aren’t worth it this year. it’s better to use our capital on higher positional value spots
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14976 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:11 pm to
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you spent a draft pick to get him for two years and accomplished maybe one playoff run with him?


A high pick? It was literally 30 picks earlier than what we gave up for Vele. And you right, we did get by with lesser receivers, but we also had a first ballot HOF qb. I figured as a fan, you would know that. You saying Shough is a first ballot HOFer now? Weren’t you on Rattlers nuts until the end of the year still saying he was better? Now this take lol?
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Sharlo
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:14 pm to
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Hes never really looked like the guy at Clemson in the Jags offense


Yep. This offense needs 2-3 legit playmakers, and he's as good a bet as can be found this cycle.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14976 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Having 2 talented #1 WR's costing $30mil does not fit our rebuild. We were never going to pay 2 WR's big money. How is that working out for the Bengals?


Well different scenarios. Shough is still under a rookie contract three more years, not making #1 overall money like Burrow. Olave will only make 15 this year. And since yiu used the Bengals as an example, they almost won a Super Bowl with those receivers. You could have easily squeezed 3-4 years with all three until u have to pay Shough if he’s worthy.

They did frick up paying all three, shoulda traded Higgins for a first and got his replacement. Brian Thomas was sitting right there for them to draft that year. That’s where they screwed up, cost them adding players on D.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14976 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:24 pm to
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the running backs aren’t worth it this year. it’s better to use our capital on higher positional value spots


No one knows if they are worth it. Skattebo was leading all rookies last year before he got hurt, taken in the 4th round. The Chicago rb was impressive and he was taken in the 7th. There’s examples every year. Loves backup might be way better than where he gets drafted. You just never know.
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24013 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 6:36 pm to
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No one knows if they are worth it

we know exactly what Etienne is and we’re paying him 37 year old Demario money.

Those 1-3rd round picks won’t be paid hardly anything and could end up being massive value if 2-3 are WR/edge
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