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re: So why did we overpay Etienne so much?

Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14971 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:29 am to
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Etienne has been on a rookie deal, if they wanted to replace him they could have.


They drafted running backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds while he was there. And Tank pretty much took over the job in 2024. Guessing they chose the 4th rounder to be their main rb this year.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 8:31 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14971 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:32 am to
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Bro, 13mil is chump change in today’s NFL market. This ain’t nothing to be getting upset over


It’s not chump change when you 1st in the entire league with a 1/3 of your cap being taken up with dead money.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
11513 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:36 am to
Etienne brings big-play ability, with 11 touchdowns of 20+ yards, and his speed is amplified indoors at the Superdome.

Etienne has proven he can handle 300+ touches per season, whereas Dowdle hasn't matched that volume.

If Etienne reaches 1,500 scrimmage yards, his $13M salary will seem like a bargain.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18836 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:42 am to
are you ever happy with anything Saints related? i mean it seriously? every post is negative or has a negative slant. it is like to sole existence on this board is to just be negative about everything.

if we won the Superb Owl this year, you'd bitch about something.

just be happy we are improving, that the FO is making good decisions and the trajectory of the team is looking up.
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
3837 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:49 am to
Do we know what the actual guaranteed money is? Is the last year a option year? I didn't love the signing. I would have preferred Walker for the 15 for 3 vs the 13 a year for 4 we gave Etienne but if theres some wiggle room in the contract I get it..
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290729 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:51 am to
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That’s really cute you think the record flipped just b/c of Etienne. Jesus.


Yeah, cause that’s what I meant by my post. They won +9 games just cause of etienne

You really are a retard
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122492 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:55 am to
He either comes out against whatever the Saints do or hedges his bet by calling their no brainer moves “fair”. This is the guy that still thinks we “reached” for Shough and should’ve tanked for Nuss. Lol.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:16 am to
I don't see much support for the notion that the Saints over-paid for Etienne. With a few quick searches, it looks like Etienne was approximately a top 10-12 Rb in the league in terms of production, and he was widely considered the second best RB available in free agency. This deal puts him at the #3 paid RB in the league, but that's how it always worked with the most recent signings. He will be the 10th best paid in a year or two. As I see it, the Saints paid a market price, perhaps on the high side, which is what you expect with a splashy signing on the first day of free agency.

If you want to make an argument that Etienne is not a fit, not that good, etc., then you just see things differently than Moore et al do. But this is not some awful deal based on his production or how he is generally viewed as a player.

Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28547 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:39 am to
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It’s not chump change when you 1st in the entire league with a 1/3 of your cap being taken up with dead money.


Do you know how long we have been hearing that we are in cap hell and can't make any moves? This is nothing more than a false talking point.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14971 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:42 am to
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He either comes out against whatever the Saints do or hedges his bet by calling their no brainer moves “fair”. This is the guy that still thinks we “reached” for Shough and should’ve tanked for Nuss. Lol.


You keep repeating that but you wrong as usual. Only qb I wanted to tank for is Manning. I guess we will see where he gets picked next year. I think Edwards was a very good signing for the price and our needs. Loved Ellis, but he was also a bit of an overpay due to his age. A few million more and we could have landed Lloyd who is 3-4 years younger…

Not sure you realize, but there’s a very good chance Nuss goes in the same round as Shough next month.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:58 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14971 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:55 am to
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I don't see much support for the notion that the Saints over-paid for Etienne

Quick internet search says differently. But ok.
https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jaguars/2026/03/10/analysts-gives-panthers-saints-mixed-grades-devin-lloyd-travis-etienne-deals/89083405007/

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While the Lloyd deal was relatively well-received, Etienne to the Saints was much more of a mixed bag. Walder gave it the worst grade at a C-, arguing that this may not have been the best use of the Saints' money.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:56 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24004 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:58 am to
That link says we could’ve found him in the draft (wrong) or free agency (wrong). Walker wanted the Chiefs, big drop off after Love

And it isn’t a lot of cash. We have barely any money on the books for next year
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:59 am
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
1399 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:02 am to
Didn't over pay at all. Go get the guy you like and if it doesn't work out play hide the banana like all clubs do.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19515 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:08 am to
Listen to Underhill. Etienne is an elite inside zone runner (like 4.2 yards a carry). Our run game is based on the inside zone. Sometimes, the best player for your system is not necessarily the best player at that position. Also, Kamara is a great outside zone runner, not really good with the inside zone. It's why he looked like an all-pro with Kubiak and looks like he lost 2 steps this year.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:12 am to
In the very article you linked another writer called the deal “average” while another gave it an A. If you are arguing that the Saints should not have acquired Etienne, I can absolutely respect that. You could draft a RB lower, hope Estime continues to improve, etc. but that doesn’t mean the Saints significantly overpaid for him ONCE THEY DECIDED TO GO AFYER HIM.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21648 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:25 am to
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Do we know what the actual guaranteed money is? Is the last year a option year? I didn't love the signing. I would have preferred Walker for the 15 for 3 vs the 13 a year for 4 we gave Etienne but if theres some wiggle room in the contract I get it..

OTC reports Etienne with a 4 year $48M with $28M guaranteed. But, no other specifics

Spotrac shows the 4 year $52M figures that was initially reported, but no mention of guarantees.

Is it possible they got him for $1M less a year?
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 10:36 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21648 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:34 am to
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Not sure what’s going to happen with Kamara, but this year we paying two running backs top 7 money.

Partially true, but your point still stands. This is sort of one of those ACKCHYUALLY meme corrections.

AK is currently the 7th highest paid RB for 2026. However, that does not include Walker or Etienne's contracts, which could bump AK down to 9th. I say could, because we do not know Walker or Etienne's 2026 cap hits yet

If you are looking at the entire contract, OTC has AK at 7th at $12.25M and Etienne tied for 8th with Jacobs with a $12M average
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21648 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:39 am to
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I'm reluctant to respond to another sad troll by OP (what must he be like in real life?)

I'm one of the few that enjoy his posts, and get a good laugh out of his "I'm better than all of you" perspectives he brings. I will look forward to all of his "see I told ya..." posts whenever Etienne has a bad play, series, game; while also going silent when Etienne plays great.

In regards to real life, I view OP as one of those guys that told his 3 y/o not to do something because they'll get hurt. Then when the 3 y/o does it anyway and gets hurt as predicted; he brings up how he was right about that at every birthday and works it into the wedding speech
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27424 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 11:28 am to
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We gonna pay him 13 a year while Rico Dowdle who had almost the exact same numbers as him but with a much better ypc the last two years, will make exactly half of what we paying him. Dowdles last two seasons were actually much better than Etiennes.


Another clueless towndumbass take. Rico is horrible in pass pro. Etienne is good. Rico isn't a true number one back. Etienne is.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5100 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 11:31 am to
He's probably overpaid a bit but he's a good pickup still. It's called supply and demand. There wasn't a lot on the FA market so you had to overpay.
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