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Posted on 4/16/22 at 2:19 pm to Chalkywhite84
Chalksie can you list the truth and facts?
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:41 am to Vinny V
Sean Payton and Tom Brady were negotiating a deal with the Miami Dolphins.
It fell apart.
I have no links.
I know people.
Believe what you wish.
It fell apart.
I have no links.
I know people.
Believe what you wish.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:50 am to Winstonscrabfingers
quote:
The Saints will never see another HC with that winning percentage.
Unless the Saints can conjure up another Payton-Brees combination, this is very probably true.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 10:29 am to Winstonscrabfingers
quote:
The Saints will never see another HC with that winning percentage.
For every great coach there’s an even greater quarterback playing for them. You hit on a great QB and any coach with him will look good by association.
Currently see Joe Burrow. He carried Orgeron and now did it again for Zac Taylor
Posted on 4/17/22 at 12:03 pm to Winstonscrabfingers
RIGHT NOW I’d rather see what a Sean Payton “Disciple” Dennis Allen can do with what has been turned into a top-5 ORGANIZATION in the league.
RIGHT NOW is informed by knowing Sean no longer wanted to be in NOLA, that hindsight now strongly suggests he ALWAYS saw NOLA as a stepping stone—which was absolutely reasonable in 2006–but once he’d helped make this place a premium NFL organization & he’s still saw us as somehow “junior varsity” while trying to jump ship for LA, Dallas or Miami…. FU.CK HIM!
Let’s see what Dennis Allen can do here in NOLA without letting his stint in Oakland ruin it. Oakland was at the time as dysfunctional as any NFL team has been in league history and no one was seeing any success. He was very good here in his role with the DBs that got him a chance at DC in Denver, very good in that role to quickly earn a HC gig (again in a broken organization), and has been VERY GOOD since re-joining us in NOLA in 2015.
Sean can eat a dick
RIGHT NOW is informed by knowing Sean no longer wanted to be in NOLA, that hindsight now strongly suggests he ALWAYS saw NOLA as a stepping stone—which was absolutely reasonable in 2006–but once he’d helped make this place a premium NFL organization & he’s still saw us as somehow “junior varsity” while trying to jump ship for LA, Dallas or Miami…. FU.CK HIM!
Let’s see what Dennis Allen can do here in NOLA without letting his stint in Oakland ruin it. Oakland was at the time as dysfunctional as any NFL team has been in league history and no one was seeing any success. He was very good here in his role with the DBs that got him a chance at DC in Denver, very good in that role to quickly earn a HC gig (again in a broken organization), and has been VERY GOOD since re-joining us in NOLA in 2015.
Sean can eat a dick
Posted on 4/17/22 at 12:28 pm to littlefart
quote:
he ALWAYS saw NOLA as a stepping stone
15 years is a long time at a stepping stone organization.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 1:02 pm to Winstonscrabfingers
Could be right, but a negative viewpoint.
Before the “Organizational Transformation” of the Brees-Payton era sure, seems very unlikely; now we are seen as a top job opportunity for coaches as well as administrative/scouting/business personnel.
Dennis Allen is really not being given a fair shake IMO, to take the baton and run with it. But even if he were to flop and we’d find ourselves looking for a new coach in 2 or 3 years, I think we’d have good up and coming coaches looking at us as a great opportunity. Sean McVay is a pretty good coach who was a promising “no name” about 5 years ago.
I think getting a good leader is important, but it also helps when a good mind is paired with an organization doing things the right way… at least in terms of willingness to spend and give coaches/scouting/GM resources to win.
Here’s a few younger examples that represent what I would be THRILLED to see Dennis Allen become:
Sean McVay
Zac Taylor
Matt LaFleur
Kyle Shanahan
A little older and more well-known:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Sean McDermott
Mike Vrabel
Ron Rivera
Pete Carroll
Andy Reid
Guys that I KINDA LIKE but the “jury is out”:
Kingsbury
McCarthy
Reich
Zimmer
Siriani
Arthur Smith
Pedersen
Campbell
There’s only a handful of HCs that I think I know are out of their depth:
Rhule
Judge
Bowles
Nagy
Then there’s the coaches that I admit I have no idea about my opinion:
Miami coach
Salah
Browns coach
Culley
Staley
Hackett
Raiders coach
Not everyone has to be “a Belichick, Payton, Reid type”. A good leader in a good organization gives you a chance. Ultimately are you one of the handful of teams that knows WTF you’re doing or are you throwing crap against the wall? The coach is only 1 (VERY important) part. GM, scouting, PLAYERS (QB)…
I’m not sure Sean Payton would’ve been successful in Miami with Culpepper had he in some alternate reality been there instead of Saban in 2006.
Before the “Organizational Transformation” of the Brees-Payton era sure, seems very unlikely; now we are seen as a top job opportunity for coaches as well as administrative/scouting/business personnel.
Dennis Allen is really not being given a fair shake IMO, to take the baton and run with it. But even if he were to flop and we’d find ourselves looking for a new coach in 2 or 3 years, I think we’d have good up and coming coaches looking at us as a great opportunity. Sean McVay is a pretty good coach who was a promising “no name” about 5 years ago.
I think getting a good leader is important, but it also helps when a good mind is paired with an organization doing things the right way… at least in terms of willingness to spend and give coaches/scouting/GM resources to win.
Here’s a few younger examples that represent what I would be THRILLED to see Dennis Allen become:
Sean McVay
Zac Taylor
Matt LaFleur
Kyle Shanahan
A little older and more well-known:
Mike Tomlin
John Harbaugh
Sean McDermott
Mike Vrabel
Ron Rivera
Pete Carroll
Andy Reid
Guys that I KINDA LIKE but the “jury is out”:
Kingsbury
McCarthy
Reich
Zimmer
Siriani
Arthur Smith
Pedersen
Campbell
There’s only a handful of HCs that I think I know are out of their depth:
Rhule
Judge
Bowles
Nagy
Then there’s the coaches that I admit I have no idea about my opinion:
Miami coach
Salah
Browns coach
Culley
Staley
Hackett
Raiders coach
Not everyone has to be “a Belichick, Payton, Reid type”. A good leader in a good organization gives you a chance. Ultimately are you one of the handful of teams that knows WTF you’re doing or are you throwing crap against the wall? The coach is only 1 (VERY important) part. GM, scouting, PLAYERS (QB)…
I’m not sure Sean Payton would’ve been successful in Miami with Culpepper had he in some alternate reality been there instead of Saban in 2006.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 1:04 pm to BigBrod81
quote:
he ALWAYS saw NOLA as a stepping stone
15 years is a long time at a stepping stone organization.
He's playing the long long long game no one but gravy can see.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 1:29 pm to goatmilker
quote:
He's playing the long long long game no one but gravy can see.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:40 am to LSUPilot07
I don't know that I buy that Sean wanted to coach in Miami. He seems much more like a guy that got burned out and wants to take a break from it all and party with his young hot wife/girlfriend/whatever their status is.
Being a TV analyst is much less stressful than a head coach and the money is there.
Being a TV analyst is much less stressful than a head coach and the money is there.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:49 pm to LSUZombie
quote:
Currently see Joe Burrow. He carried Orgeron...
Favre carried Curley Hallman at S. Miss...
It truely is a thing..
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:13 pm to 3deadtrolls
“I don’t see myself coaching next year”
LOL
Paraphrasing….
Nothing like winning a SuperBowl….
I have to win another one
LOL
Yea he was retiring!!! LOL
The best thing is he will never win another SuperBowl
frickem
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