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So now DA won’t even confirm that MT’s absence is due to turf toe? No timetable? WTF?

Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
18983 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:26 pm
It’s time to just tell people what’s really going on. None of this makes any sense other than they know this injury is bullshite and they’re trying to avoid bad press or protect some sort of contractual detail. Not placing him on IR also doesn’t make sense unless there is a financial/service time issue. At what point is he in breach? The staff cannot be this stupid. They’re covering for some reason. It’s really getting ridiculous and it’s worthy of media scrutiny outside of NOLA.

Per Underhill Twitter: “DA says no timetable on Mike Thomas, but says he’ll play this season and he’s working hard to rehab. Asked if it was a turf tow injury, DA declined to get specific”
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16367 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:31 pm to
Is this his way of taking Payton's limited information on injuries to the next level? Would be curious to know if he was this cryptic in Oakland, or if this is something new.

The non-IR part is really strange, unless there is some nuance that would not allow him to be part of non-practice team activities as well. If he is truly injured, and the taking the younger WRs under his wing is legit; maybe they want to make sure he's still available everywhere but the practice field?

Just spit balling, and still holding out hope as he is not going anywhere for at least the next 8 months due to his contract.

Another optimistic viewpoint is he's being overly cautious because of how much worse his ankle got when he tried to play through that, with the approval of the medical team.

Pessimistic viewpoint, he needs surgery and is waiting until next July
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
4439 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:35 pm to
hopefully it means they are trying like hell to trade him away
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77384 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:41 pm to
None of this is any different than it was under payton. Obviously they didnt know how long it would take MT to heal
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10678 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:41 pm to
Hot take: Michael Thomas might be the biggest pussy in Saints history

I’m beyond over this clown. Get him the frick out of here
Posted by Dopinderjeet
Member since Oct 2022
111 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:47 pm to
Sideshow Bob is milking this injury because he doesn't want to play. Dude has become a big problem we can't get rid of due to his contract.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16367 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:55 pm to
I honestly don't think they can. I made a comment in another post about when has Loomis ever made a decision and took into consideration next year's cap. But, I don't think he can ignore the cap ramifications.

As it stands, MT is expected to have a cap hit of $28M next year. The way his contract is structured, they should easily be able to cut that by $8-10M. If they trade him now, his cap hit will be ~$25.5M and the team has to eat the entire hit next year, which they are currently between $50-60M over the cap depending on which numbers you believe.

If they trade him after 6/01 next year, they can reduce his cap hit in 2023 to just over $12M and push $13.6M into 2024. This would get them $16M closer to being in compliance; although, they need to get in compliance with the cap before 6/01; so more Loomis shenanigans.
Posted by CubanSaint
Member since May 2013
767 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:57 pm to
I know this is an anti MT13 thread, but I legit hate Dennis Allen. What a lame duck this dude is
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:38 pm to
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None of this is any different than it was under payton.


Sad but true.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18188 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:44 pm to
MT, DA, Trade to Philly.
NOTHING BUT MASSIVE MISTAKES.
Whoever was involved in these decisions needs to be fired. Loomis and Lauscher. Purge these morons.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24603 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:48 pm to
Dunno what kind of trade value an often hurt once great receiver has. We would be lucky to get a 6th with his massive contract and injury history. But one thing is for sure, loomis will frick it up
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80174 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Whoever was involved in these decisions needs to be fired. Loomis and Lauscher. Purge these morons.


I'll get on the phone with Gayle right now
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18188 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:57 pm to
That lady has NO clue and never has. New Aints have arrived and she will listen to whatever bullshite the perpetuators of the decline tell her.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166246 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

I honestly don't think they can. I made a comment in another post about when has Loomis ever made a decision and took into consideration next year's cap. But, I don't think he can ignore the cap ramifications.

As it stands, MT is expected to have a cap hit of $28M next year. The way his contract is structured, they should easily be able to cut that by $8-10M. If they trade him now, his cap hit will be ~$25.5M and the team has to eat the entire hit next year, which they are currently between $50-60M over the cap depending on which numbers you believe.

If they trade him after 6/01 next year, they can reduce his cap hit in 2023 to just over $12M and push $13.6M into 2024. This would get them $16M closer to being in compliance; although, they need to get in compliance with the cap before 6/01; so more Loomis shenanigans.




Anything can be restructured with 3 willing parties.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30109 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Per Underhill Twitter: “DA says no timetable on Mike Thomas, but says he’ll play this season and he’s working hard to rehab. Asked if it was a turf tow injury, DA declined to get specific”



turftoe or not, we know its a LE injury
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29999 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

As it stands, MT is expected to have a cap hit of $28M next year. The way his contract is structured, they should easily be able to cut that by $8-10M. If they trade him now, his cap hit will be ~$25.5M and the team has to eat the entire hit next year, which they are currently between $50-60M over the cap depending on which numbers you believe.

If they trade him after 6/01 next year, they can reduce his cap hit in 2023 to just over $12M and push $13.6M into 2024. This would get them $16M closer to being in compliance; although, they need to get in compliance with the cap before 6/01; so more Loomis shenanigans.



yes it will hurt, a lot, but at this point what choice do they have? he can play but he wont play.

i just want him traded to the jets or browns or someone like that so he never sees the playoffs again when he plays for his new team.

he has a giant yeast infected vagina, thats whats wrong with him. DA was reported to have begged him to stay and arranged that stupid contract to make him happy. now he is just going to sit back and get paid to do nothing.

the ONLY thing that will make him play is if we make the playoffs by some miracle so he can play the savior and hero to stroke his giant ego
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 11:16 am to
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hopefully it means they are trying like hell to trade him away


Who would take a guy with this contract who has played a handful of games in two years?
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