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re: Sean Payton contract

Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:33 pm to
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correct. which is why this 2 1sts and more plus cash is silly. dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th


As mentioned earlier the Bucs gave up 2 firsts and 2 seconds plus $8 million to get Gruden. And you think the Saints can only get a 2nd and maybe a 4th. Hysterical.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:34 pm to
I’ve heard it widely discussed outside of ST. Not only that I believe there is precedent as to what the compensation could be.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57348 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:49 pm to
How would Payton like Jerry meddling in everything or does Jerry finally relinquish control and let Payton and his handpicked GM do their thing? I don't see Payton letting the owner dictate everything. Payton was ready to go to Miami so that tells me more than the Cowboys will be at play here.
The Saints had a lot of interest in Russell Wilson, Hackett is one game in and already made foolish decisions on the sideline. That marriage won't last long and Wilson might be a QB that enamors Payton more than injury prone Dak. I think the Chargers would be an interesting team to watch as well.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25130 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Holy shite. You realize it was a 30 minute interview where he talked about Mahomes for maybe 4 mins.

I watched the entire thing, did your tiny brain not comprehend that when I said it was cool to have his perspective on things? Like I said, “meh”
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12018 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:17 pm to
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As mentioned earlier the Bucs gave up 2 firsts and 2 seconds plus $8 million to get Gruden. And you think the Saints can only get a 2nd and maybe a 4th. Hysterical.


I was incorrect (apparently) as to the years remaining...I read it as this year and next, not this year and the two after it. I can see where Lester was coming from now.

Although that fact will most likely raise the compensation, I still dont think a Gruden level haul is gonna happen again...just different times now.

If ya dont agree thats fine, we'll find out down the road...in the meantime, all the best.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11108 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11108 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:43 pm to
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the question is does his final two years keep on counting down each year or does his 2 years get put on hold while he's not coaching.



After the 2024 season he is free to sign anywhere without the Saints permission.
Posted by Spaniard
Pine Belt
Member since Apr 2011
1209 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:56 pm to
Could the Saints just trade away his rights, say tomorrow and whoever they were traded to be the organization to go through to get him ?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:18 pm to
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dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th



If it were me, I'd laugh at that offer. I'd let Dallas wait til 2025.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:32 pm to
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i wouldn't doubt its different for coaches but i dont' know either way. its so shitty how its different for coaches than players.



One is controlled by a collective bargaining agreement. It's spelled out very specifically how many games a player must play to get the year counted.

Coaches aren't under the same agreement. There are pluses and minuses in that for both parties. The contract itself probably spells this out.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:34 pm to
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at the end of the day, does Payton want to risk sitting out the game for 3 full years. that's a long time. If he doesn't, the bidding starts with a 1st no matter what.



He may not care. But the price for Dallas, who I'd say has a 95% chance of needed a coach this year and is desperate, will be higher than anyone else.

If Dallas were to pass and hire someone else, I'd think the price would come down for the rest of the league.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46011 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:51 pm to
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How does it work? Can he just sit it out and go where he wants or is it dormant?



CSP can go anywhere he wants but if he goes to Dallas the Saints get Dallas's next five first round picks and CSP is only able to coach the Cowboys if he can drive around NOLA East for 24 hours without getting car jacked.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1871 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:19 pm to
Thats not what it says at all. The saints hold the rights to Sean Peyton for the next 2 years that he is ACTIVE. In other words, Sean takes a 7 year break and wants to come back. Guess what? Saints hold those rights because he is still under contract for those 2 years. Now we could relinquish that for free, but we would be idiots.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9424 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:15 pm to
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Although that fact will most likely raise the compensation, I still dont think a Gruden level haul is gonna happen again...just different times now.


I don’t disagree we won’t get that type of haul. But it almost surely has to be at least a first rounder and another draft pick. Obviously having more than one team seriously interested would greatly help. Pulling for the Chargers and Broncos, among others, to have a poor season. Hackett already put himself behind the eight ball after Monday night.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28609 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:30 pm to
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dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th


I'd call Jerry's bluff
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77199 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:04 pm to
Yea you can have him for free in two years jerry. If you ain't dead.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
33361 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:17 pm to
Idk why y’all are talking about compensation when nobody in the thread can agree on when his contract is up. Two different answers have been upvoted lol

First we need to know if it’s like Lester said and that he’s off the hook as soon as his contract would have been up if he didn’t retire or if it’s like the other guys are saying and that he could sit out for 7 years and then try to come back and would still owe the saints however much time was left on his contract when he retired.

Either way we would want compensation if he came back next year
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8172 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:21 pm to
Answer probably doesn't matter, he's not making it through 2 more off seasons and then coming back.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48853 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:21 am to
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By contract he owes the Saints two years of choaching whenever he comes back.


Don't think so, I think the contracts are through a date, in this case through the 2023 season.

Here is a brief article on the situation.
https://whodatdish.com/2022/01/25/saints-sean-payton-contact/

quote:

The Saints technically hold his rights until 2024 if Payton wants to return to coaching. Should another team want to sign him during that time span, they would have to “compensate” NOLA somehow, whether through draft picks or money.


Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11108 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:49 am to
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Thats not what it says at all


quote:

The Saints technically hold his rights until 2024 if Payton wants to return to coaching. Should another team want to sign him during that time span, they would have to “compensate” NOLA somehow, whether through draft picks or money.
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