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Sean Payton contract

Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:49 am
How does it work? Can he just sit it out and go where he wants or is it dormant?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted by Damone
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:58 am to
He retired so he is not entitled to the payment under the contract; however, under the NFL rules the Saints still possess the rights to him as an NFL coach for the remainder of the contract term whereby he cannot sign a contract with another team without the consent of the Saints. Obviously the Saints would not consent to that signing without compensation in return, hence everyone discussing one or more first round picks by any team who wants to hire him next year.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:59 am to
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He retired so he is not entitled to the payment under the contract; however, under the NFL rules the Saints still possess the rights to him as an NFL coach for the remainder of the contract term whereby he cannot sign a contract with another team without the consent of the Saints. Obviously the Saints would not consent to that signing without compensation in return, hence everyone discussing one or more first round picks by any team who wants to hire him next year.




You didn't answer the main part of the unknown.
Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:00 am to
Thanks.

For some reason, I was thinking an nfl contract just went dormant in retirement. So if he pleases, he can sit out through 2024 and return to whom he pleases
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:04 am to
Correct, the Saints only own the rights to him for the length of his contract.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:04 am to
the question is does his final two years keep on counting down each year or does his 2 years get put on hold while he's not coaching.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:05 am to
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I was thinking an nfl contract just went dormant in retirement


pay, yes.

exclusive rights, no.

so we hve the rights to him thru the end of the contract year. its not a freeze and starts back up when he "unretires"

quote:

he can sit out through 2024 and return to whom he pleases


correct. which is why this 2 1sts and more plus cash is silly.

dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:10 am to
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dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th

Not at all. Any team who wants him, especially Dallas, wants to win and won't sit through a wasted dreadful season with a lame duck coach just to get him for cheaper.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:11 am to
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Correct, the Saints only own the rights to him for the length of his contract.

Do you have a source for this rule?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:13 am to
2 full seasons could be a huge deal depending on your roster. Let's use the cowboys, dak would be 32 years old at that point.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:20 am to
quote:


Do you have a source for this rule?




Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:01 am to
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correct. which is why this 2 1sts and more plus cash is silly. dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th
He will be in high demand this year. No way the saints take anything less than a 1st
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:04 am to
No, really. Someone other than a ST lawyer—any articles or official sources?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:06 am to
Do you really need a source for that?

When his contract runs out, he’s free to do what he wants. That’s why it’s a contract
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:09 am to
What are odds he just sits it out until the Saints contract lapses. If we have him signed thru 2024, can he just take a job in 2025 and Saints are owed nothing?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:11 am to
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correct. which is why this 2 1sts and more plus cash is silly.

dude is going to dallas for a 2nd and maybe a 4th


For Sean Payton? You think 2 1st is silly? Okay. Didn't Gruden go for two 1sts?

He is making his rounds around various TV networks and people are absolutely falling in love with him. Read the comments. That will translate to owners. He should be in high demand.

Saints will have his rights through 2024. So they can trade him this offseason or even the next? If I am any team there is no other coach I would want and if trading for him is what it would take then I would offer the best deal.
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:14 am to
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If we have him signed thru 2024, can he just take a job in 2025 and Saints are owed nothing?


Absolutely, but I don't think he will wait until then. He seems like he's about ready to coach again.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:31 am to
I'm of the opinion that he won't go to Dallas because Dak is wack.
I can see him going to the Chargers if they have a vacancy.
Posted by BayouFann
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:40 am to
By contract he owes the Saints two years of choaching whenever he comes back. If he decides to coach for another team, that team owes the Saints whatever compensation requested. So yes, his contract is dormant until he comes out of retirement. Then Saints get what they want or CSP can go back to his couch until he and his preferred team agree to the Loomis terms. In another thread someone mentioned the worries of the Saints taking a bs deal to in favor of Sean to help him out.
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