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re: Saints re-sign Chase Young, 3 years 51 million

Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:20 am to
What's stupid about it? He is right. Signing Carr hurt us fairly badly.

Loomis has taken a terrible, terrible Post-Brees strategy. It shows an inability to adapt to the situation.

However, the damage is done. As I've said repeatedly we have to accept what the situation is and talk about that and deal with the cards we are dealt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:23 am to
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I’d rather keep guys like Young. I’d have liked to keep Adebo too.

Without Carr's impact, this would be a great deal for Young.

And I am not counting losing Adebo as a cap casualty to be fair. The injury made him unpalatable financially, not the cap.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:25 am to
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However, the damage is done. As I've said repeatedly we have to accept what the situation is and talk about that and deal with the cards we are dealt.

Well the scary part is moving forward, is Carr our QB beyond his current deal?

We're not going to be able to sign a Carr/Darnold level guy for a while, due to Carr's contract impacts.

Are we planning on drafting a QB in the mid-late 1st or later? Isn't that worse than tanking for a top QB?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:26 am to
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What's stupid about it? He is right. Signing Carr hurt us fairly badly.



Jameis was dog shite. He had a terrible knee injury. Signing Carr did not hurt us. Paying Jameis also is what hurt us. Everything else around carr had continued to fall apart. Carr is not the reason we have failed to make the playoffs. All the while trying to win and damn near did win with a coach that everyone agrees is pretty dog shite. You aren't allowed to make up a pretend truth. Quit being fricking drama whininig about damage and muh cap. We're applying today's % player's cost to tomorrow's lesser % borrowing. We're on a curve getting things better. We have added some core pieces to year future's cap space in some of these moves.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130250 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:28 am to
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Well the scary part is moving forward, is Carr our QB beyond his current deal?


Most likely no, but I guess we have to see how he does under Moore.

quote:

We're not going to be able to sign a Carr/Darnold level guy for a while, due to Carr's contract impacts.

Are we planning on drafting a QB in the mid-late 1st or later? Isn't that worse than tanking for a top QB?


I think they will 1) Draft someone relatively high either this year or next and 2) Go after a reclamation project type of guy on a very short term deal as a stopgap, similar to say, when Baker first signed with Tampa
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:28 am to
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Jameis was dog shite.


Did we make the playoffs under Carr?

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Paying Jameis also is what hurt us.



Extending Jameis hurt us, but we only had to do that to fit in Carr's salary

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130250 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:29 am to
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Without Carr's impact, this would be a great deal for Young.



If it would be without Carr then it is with Carr.

The SAINTS ARE NOT GOING TO DO WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO.

its not going to happen, period.

So again, we have to live within the way that Mickey is going to do things, not how we want him to do it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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476663 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:29 am to
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Go after a reclamation project type of guy on a very short term deal as a stopgap, similar to say, when Baker first signed with Tampa


I guess we could pray for Trevor Lawrence
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130250 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:34 am to
It'll be more like a Darnold coming from SF to Minn than a Lawrence I reckon.

But Mickey is DEFINITELY going to go after a stopgap QB if he drafts an early one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476663 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:35 am to
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It'll be more like a Darnold coming from SF to Minn than a Lawrence I reckon.

Since Justin Fields is off the market...DANIEL JONES, COME ON DOWN
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:40 am to
LINK



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Young was signed to a one-year prove-it deal with the Saints in 2024. The 25-year-old edge rusher outplayed his $13 million contract, ranking top-10 in the league in quarterback pressures and top-five in hurries. Young ended the season with 5.5 sacks and appeared in all 17 games.



quote:

Chase Young is still only 25 and could be great if Staley has a concrete vision for him. Last year, even with the defensive line struggles, was 7th in pressures and 5th in hurries per @PFF. The potential is there, and Young will be a key piece in this defense.




quote:

The Saints remained interested in extending Young after hiring defensive coordinator Brandon Staley, who will transform the Saints defense to a 3-4. The former Ohio State Buckeye has the ideal length and size to play in a 3-4 and will help the defense make the transition into the new scheme.



Good signing IMO.

I’ll take it.


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:43 am to
Same here.
One of only 3? Guys to play all 17 games.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162911 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:09 am to
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Signing Carr did not hurt us. Paying Jameis also is what hurt us. Everything else around carr had continued to fall apart.


You didn't have to sign Carr, this isn't an either/or situation. Signing Carr made absolutely 0 sense for where this roster was headed.

You tried to extend the window hoping surrounding JW with some weapons and a still top end D, it failed. At that point it was time to eat it and being to rebuild. Signing Carr was simply done to give allen the lowest of goals, not to seriously contend.

quote:

and damn near did win with a coach that everyone agrees is pretty dog shite.


Yeah and who chose the dog shite coach? Who continually went to bat for him and gave him a 3rd season when it clearly wasn't working and still didn't want to fire him until forced?

and again "almost" making the playoffs in a bad division, in an expanded playoff is not being on the cusp of anything. You weren't mediocre enough in the most mediocre dvision possible, the winner the last 3 years had 7 wins, 9 wins, and 10 wins....For fricksake

Signing Carr year of: This division is so winnable and Carr has never played for a roster this good...TO THE MOON

3 years later: well the roster isn't good, so its not his fault

Then why the frick did we sign him?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162911 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:14 am to
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Are we planning on drafting a QB in the mid-late 1st or later? Isn't that worse than tanking for a top QB?


that's what sucks, between having the #9 and a semi decent amount of picks, aggressively moving up to get a QB was plausible.....this class just isn't good and its tough to justify selling the farm to grab one.
Posted by TigerSaurus
Member since Apr 2024
2564 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:24 am to


This is surprising.
Not saying good or bad… just surprising as he’s not a stellar player anymore.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63034 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:26 am to
lol

This franchise has no desire/ability to compete.

Zero
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476663 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:28 am to
Oh 100% trading up this year for a QB is suicide
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:03 am to
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Same here. One of only 3? Guys to play all 17 games.



Another missed statistic that should be credited.

Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
2005 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:43 am to
ML does what his HCs ask him to do.DA wanted DC as his QB and got him.
SP had the power of buying the groceries over ML.KM wanted to keep DC
and so they have.KM along with Staley as DC wanted to sign Chase to
new contract so they have.Mickey is a bean counter who defers the football
decisions to the coaches and scouts.If the HC wants a particular player
in the draft and have to trade to get him ML tries to do the deal.
MLs problem is he`s not knowledgeable enough about talent and schemes
and just goes along with what info he gets.If he was alot of these deals
and draft choice's might6 not have been made.SP was horrible at freeagency
and wasted alot of money and cap space.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:57 am to
We have 11 players with a cap hit > $1mm in 2026, now including Young

We have basically zero long term money tied up in anyone. And we don’t even know the full breakdown of Young’s contract. It’s probably a 2 year deal in reality.

Can’t believe people are melting down over THIS transaction.
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