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Saints new dynasty or one year wonder?
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:43 pm
Assuming Saints win SB this year, (big assumption). How long can they sustain this success? I do not mean going undefeated. I mean are the Saints a team capable of going to multiple SB's ala Patriots, Cowboys, 49ers. Can we maintain a level of success for years to come and perhaps dominate most of the upcoming decade, or fade away eventually?
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:45 pm to lsutigerfan1976
Saints have many many key FA's at the end of this year, and what if we do win the Super Bowl? How many players will say they got their ring now its time to get their money, and leave for the bigger contracts.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:47 pm to lsutigerfan1976
well, they are set up for a nice run looking at the NFC.
the other 2 top teams in the minds of most are MIN and ARI....and Favre and Warner are old as dirt.
the other 2 top teams in the minds of most are MIN and ARI....and Favre and Warner are old as dirt.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:48 pm to lsutigerfan1976
I have to think that with SP and Brees running this offense, the Saints are going to be a force for at least a few more years.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:49 pm to lsutigerfan1976
Absolutely. This regime has done a fantastic job of finding cheap talent in the later rounds and through free agency. The only thing I see as a potential issue is how much money Brees will want in a few years. He can write his own check but taking as much as we'll pay him will limit the talent we can surround him with.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:49 pm to lsutigerfan1976
D-Y-N-A-S-T-Y!!
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:54 pm to lsutigerfan1976
The reason i ask is because it seems we are older and set up in certain positions to win now. I am wondering with this nucleus whether or not we can replace some older vets down the line and keep churning wins and possible SB victories. Or is it now or never.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:54 pm to whodatfan
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The only thing I see as a potential issue is how much money Brees will want in a few years. He can write his own check but taking as much as we'll pay him will limit the talent we can surround him with.
I don't think this will be a problem. Drew has been turning down endorsements except for those co's that will donate to his charity. He wants to win, and win, and win....
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:01 pm to kclsufan
"I understand how this business works and how this industry is," Brees said when asked about the possibility of a long-term contract extension. "For quarterbacks and coaches, it's about going to the playoffs and it's about winning champions and wins and losses. None of that other stuff matters. That's what I'm here for.
"I'm not even thinking about an extension. You can't think about those things right now. Do I hope it happens at some point? Absolutely. Because I love it here. I love this team, and I love this organization."
"I'm not even thinking about an extension. You can't think about those things right now. Do I hope it happens at some point? Absolutely. Because I love it here. I love this team, and I love this organization."
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:05 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Because I love it here. I love this team, and I love this organization."
I just wish more Saints players actually lived in the city. Brees has truly taken to the culture and lifestyle that is NO.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:09 pm to glassman
I'll let you know in 5years :D
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:20 pm to kclsufan
I think Brees really likes it here. Hopefully he's the type to take $15m a year when he could probably get $20m. Hell, if there's no cap I could see Snyder or Jones offering him $25m+.
Other than that, they have a young WR corps locked up for 3+ years, a very good young CB tandem for 3 years, and a very good middle Lb for 3 or 4 years who shouldn't start decling any time soon. If we extend Nicks, who will be the top player on their FA list IMO, we'll have a great young OG tandem for at least two more years.
The only problem potential problem spots over the next 3 years are LT (Brown will cost too much for his age/injury concerns, Bushrod is RFA, Streif I think is UFA), DE (Smith aging, Grant aging and sucking, McCray not being that good), S (I think they'll let Sharper walk in favor of extending Evans, maybe Bushrod and Brees), and RB (I like PT and Bell, but if they get $5m+ a year from someone, I say bid them adieu and target a RB in the middle rounds of the draft).
Other than that, they have a young WR corps locked up for 3+ years, a very good young CB tandem for 3 years, and a very good middle Lb for 3 or 4 years who shouldn't start decling any time soon. If we extend Nicks, who will be the top player on their FA list IMO, we'll have a great young OG tandem for at least two more years.
The only problem potential problem spots over the next 3 years are LT (Brown will cost too much for his age/injury concerns, Bushrod is RFA, Streif I think is UFA), DE (Smith aging, Grant aging and sucking, McCray not being that good), S (I think they'll let Sharper walk in favor of extending Evans, maybe Bushrod and Brees), and RB (I like PT and Bell, but if they get $5m+ a year from someone, I say bid them adieu and target a RB in the middle rounds of the draft).
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:27 pm to lsutigerfan1976
We will be very good for the foreseeable future. In order to become the next perenial champion we need more stud D and O lineman plus linebackers.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:30 pm to Tigerstudent08
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We will be very good for the foreseeable future. In order to become the next perenial champion we need more stud D and O lineman plus linebackers.
yes sir
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:35 pm to St Augustine
just hope those we draft this coming year pan out, because there are studs in college at those positions coming out this draft.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:52 pm to ATLienTiger
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Saints have many many key FA's at the end of this year
Who are they?
Posted on 12/14/09 at 8:54 pm to St Augustine
We are an old team overall, but some of our old guys (Carney, McKenzie, Clancy, Brown) are not exactly guys we're counting on for next year.
As has been pointed out, all of our skill players on offense should be just as good next year. The offense will, if anything, be even more potent next year, especially if we can get a good tackle or center in the draft and upgrade our O-line.
The defense is getting old at LB, and we definitely have to draft there again and hope that Arnoux can also eventually develop into a starter. Sharper is old, and it's hard to know how long he can play at a high level, but Usama Young is improving and we may still switch Jenkins to safety and we'll also have Chip Vaughn to develop. Gay has definitely lost a step and will only get slower and we ultimately need to find another good CB (depending on what we see from Jenkins the rest of the season).
We can become a dynasty if we can get a good DT and OLB in this year's draft or free agency, and develop at safety, cornerback, and offensive tackle within the next two years.
As has been pointed out, all of our skill players on offense should be just as good next year. The offense will, if anything, be even more potent next year, especially if we can get a good tackle or center in the draft and upgrade our O-line.
The defense is getting old at LB, and we definitely have to draft there again and hope that Arnoux can also eventually develop into a starter. Sharper is old, and it's hard to know how long he can play at a high level, but Usama Young is improving and we may still switch Jenkins to safety and we'll also have Chip Vaughn to develop. Gay has definitely lost a step and will only get slower and we ultimately need to find another good CB (depending on what we see from Jenkins the rest of the season).
We can become a dynasty if we can get a good DT and OLB in this year's draft or free agency, and develop at safety, cornerback, and offensive tackle within the next two years.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 9:37 pm to lsutigerfan1976
i think we can be a new dynasty. we have a great front office and they have done very well finding talent. and keep in mind that payton is regarded as one of the most, if not the most, player friendly head coach and that will help us with signing free agents. we have a QB that is in his prime and has plenty of years ahead of him. you couldnt ask for much more.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:53 pm to lsutigerfan1976
idk? it was called a fluke in 06. Im afraid players will want pay and will have to let them go. we will see.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 10:59 pm to lsutigerfan1976
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Saints new dynasty
Wayyyyyy to early for this talk
Remember the Titans started last season 13-0...
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