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re: Saints holding official visit with Keon Coleman (WR, FSU)
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:52 pm to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:52 pm to Chalkywhite84
Brah I keep forgetting all about Ja’Lynn Polk. He’d be a hell of a pick in the second round too.
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:14 pm to goatmilker
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I don't have any charts but does being bracketed or double teamed affect the contested catch rate %?
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However 11rh percentile separation percentage in single coverage
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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However 11rh percentile separation percentage in single coverage
I didn't ask about 'single coverage separation %' though.
I mean I asked about was goes into player X contested catch % and you come back with "percentile separation percentage in single coverage".
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:44 pm to goatmilker
It means he's really bad getting open in single coverage.
I don't know if there is a stat for what you wanted, but I doubt he's getting open better against double teams, especially with his overall terrible numbers in terms of getting open.
Getting open isn't his thing. It's just not.
I think people on here overrate him in particular because he had possibly his best game of 2023 against LSU and he's from LA.
I don't know if there is a stat for what you wanted, but I doubt he's getting open better against double teams, especially with his overall terrible numbers in terms of getting open.
Getting open isn't his thing. It's just not.
I think people on here overrate him in particular because he had possibly his best game of 2023 against LSU and he's from LA.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
You brought up his poor contested catch %.
I asked does that include dbl coverage, bracketing or even triple coverage. Because not specific to Coleman those things matter in such a metric you brought cause I don't know. I mean if team all year said "to win we must stop WR X", would not that be a factor in the stat you brought up being "Player contested reception %"?
I asked does that include dbl coverage, bracketing or even triple coverage. Because not specific to Coleman those things matter in such a metric you brought cause I don't know. I mean if team all year said "to win we must stop WR X", would not that be a factor in the stat you brought up being "Player contested reception %"?
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:17 pm to Mouth
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I’m SFP. If its not an original thought (thread) that I have, then I completely disagree.
I’m not so sure about the rest of your rant, but this is spot fricking on
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:50 pm to goatmilker
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You brought up his poor contested catch %.
No. I brought up his poor contested target rate.
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Because not specific to Coleman those things matter in such a metric you brought cause I don't know. I mean if team all year said "to win we must stop WR X", would not that be a factor in the stat you brought up being "Player contested reception %"?
Well, again, I brought up contested target rate, and that's why I gave you his ranking on getting open against single coverage.
If he can't get open against single coverage, why do we even need to discuss " dbl coverage, bracketing or even triple coverage"?
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There should be better options Even if we are looking WR
Who would be your WR pick at 45?
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:35 pm to moneyg
I'd hope for McConkey but I could see the Chiefs taking him @ #32
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:49 am to Chalkywhite84
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Thrush Pearsall Mcconkey
Legette from SC is a hell of a player. I see him getting mocked late second to third. I bet he goes earlier than that.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
I dont' have much to add to this thread, but I did think these statistics stuck out as pretty interesting.
The graph SFP provided shows total receptions and the contested rate. At quick glance I noticed MHJ (17.6), Odunze (17.92) & Coleman (17.0) all had similar contested targets until I realized this was receptions vs contested target rates. FYI, Nabers was at 15.3. So, I looked at total targets:
MHJ: 114 targets, which means at a 26.3% rate he has 30 contested targets
Odunze: 140 targets, 29 contested targets
Nabers: 128 targets, 22 contested targets
Coleman: 87 targets, 30 contested targets
The graph SFP provided shows total receptions and the contested rate. At quick glance I noticed MHJ (17.6), Odunze (17.92) & Coleman (17.0) all had similar contested targets until I realized this was receptions vs contested target rates. FYI, Nabers was at 15.3. So, I looked at total targets:
MHJ: 114 targets, which means at a 26.3% rate he has 30 contested targets
Odunze: 140 targets, 29 contested targets
Nabers: 128 targets, 22 contested targets
Coleman: 87 targets, 30 contested targets
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:31 am to Weekend Warrior79
Keon Coleman is a bigger healthy Michael Thomas.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:06 pm to Hayekian serf
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Legette from SC is a hell of a player. I see him getting mocked late second to third. I bet he goes earlier than that.
Yeah, someone is going to scoop him up in the top half of the 2nd. His straight line speed is nuts.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:09 pm to Chalkywhite84
Like with Coleman, he has red flags too. Guys who break out in their 4th or 5th year have really bad track records in the NFL.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
And some win natties!
Just kidding Slo
Just kidding Slo
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:57 pm to JS87
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The pick will be someone out in left field.
Exactly.
It's going to be some project defensive end from a D3 school in backwoods Mississippi that would have went undrafted.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:04 pm to goatmilker
Lol that comment is for skill players
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Like with Coleman, he has red flags too. Guys who break out in their 4th or 5th year have really bad track records in the NFL.
I get the concerns you listed. Who would be a better target in round 2.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:11 pm to moneyg
Like others I think the kid from USC has a nice future ahead.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 3:12 pm
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