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Saints attempted a sign and trade for Clowney

Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:24 pm
Making a final push late Saturday to land star pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney, the Saints got creative, attempting to pull off a move believed to be the first of its kind in NFL history – but couldn’t get final clearance from the league.
The Saints were working with another team towards a unique sign-and-trade deal that would’ve maneuvered around salary cap constraints to bring the free-agent Clowney to New Orleans. But talks fell apart over the NFL’s willingness to approve such a deal, and Clowney wound up agreeing to terms with the Tennessee Titans on a one-year deal late Saturday night.
According to sources informed of the talks, the Saints didn’t feel they could compete financially with the Titans’ offer – $12 million, plus $3 million in incentives – given budgetary reasons. So, they approached another team to find a workaround. (Sources didn’t confirm the other team, which hereafter is referred to as “Team X”, but it is believed to be the Cleveland Browns, who have ample cap space and a front office known for having a propensity for creativity, most memorably on display in their 2016 trade for quarterback Brock Osweiler.)
The sides discussed parameters of a deal in which Team X would’ve signed Clowney to a one-year, $15 million contract and paid him a $5 million signing bonus. Then, Team X would’ve immediately traded Clowney to the Saints, who would’ve sent Team X a second-round draft pick, as well as a player to take additional salary off New Orleans’ books. The Saints would’ve paid Clowney’s remaining $10 million salary.
Just one problem: The teams got word late Saturday the NFL was unlikely to approve such a deal.
Other teams have, in essence, paid cash for picks in the past, including the Browns, who agreed to take on Osweiler’s $16 million guaranteed salary in a deal that netted them a second-round draft pick. Last year, the Dolphins paid Ryan Tannehill a $5 million signing bonus on a restructured contract to send him to the Titans. And Clowney himself received a $7 million signing bonus last August from the Texans to help complete a trade to Seattle.
But several executives from different NFL teams said they couldn’t recall any other team executing such a deal involving a free agent who was literally only signed to trade him. One exec summed up the interpretation of the league’s bylaws as: “Fundamentally, you can’t trade cash.”
The Saints have long been willing to convert large base salaries to signing bonuses or add voidable years to contracts to free up short-term cap space. But there is great uncertainty about the 2021 salary cap, given a projected multibillion-dollar revenue shortfall related to COVID-19 that could cause it to drop from $198.2 million per club in 2020 to as little as $175 million. Entering this weekend’s cuts, the Saints had over $260 million in cap commitments for 2021, according to NFL Players Association records.
The Saints continued to try to rework their offer late into Saturday night, but without help, they couldn’t match the Titans’ offer. And after 5½ months on the free-agent market, Clowney decided to head to Tennessee instead.

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Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9313 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:26 pm to
Loomis was trying to make some magic happen
Posted by LurkerTooLong
Lakeview, NOLA
Member since Aug 2016
1856 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:27 pm to
Well, they tried.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13619 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:29 pm to
I wonder why the NFL wouldn’t give clearance for the deal
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:31 pm to
2nd round pick? For a likely 1 year player. frick that shite. League saved us from a bad deal.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:43 pm to
Because it’s never been done before and would have been effectively a deal for cash which isn’t allowed.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33742 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 2:57 pm to
Glad that didn't happen.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2101 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:08 pm to
Hasn’t this Clown been available for months? This 2020 team will be the ultimate shite show. Watch... or don’t.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:08 pm to
Woulda been approved for the Pats or Cowboys!
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5031 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:13 pm to
I get why the league would be hesitant but sign and trades would add an interesting element to the league.

But it feels like it got rejected because the NFLs people dont understand contracts as well as Loomis
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14108 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

But it feels like it got rejected because the NFLs people dont understand contracts as well as Loomis



Agreed. They might even make some new rule b/c of this.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted by IOU
Member since Apr 2020
339 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:42 pm to
This team is in trouble. They're ability to kick the cap can down the road is coming to an end. Every year; ALL IN, ALL IN, ALL IN, ALL IN, ....
What exactly do they have to show for it?
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:42 pm to
Well...unless it’s the Patriots. .
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 3:44 pm to
If the Patriots attempted a trade like this, it may have been allowed.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11588 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:11 pm to
What's wrong with the deal?

The player receives all his money and the entirety of the contract is allocated to the NFL Cap
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1367 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:17 pm to
Yeah, the 36 mill over the cap is an issue next year. The 90 they have the following isn’t. At least know what you’re talking when spewing bullshitt for the entire world to see
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3397 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:17 pm to
It would have been buying a pick. The league would not allow that.


Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77392 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

This team is in trouble. They're ability to kick the cap can down the road is coming to an end. Every year; ALL IN, ALL IN, ALL IN, ALL IN, ....
What exactly do they have to show for it?

The best record in the nfl over the last 3 years
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:29 pm to
No thanks!! Go to Tennessee
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 4:31 pm to
Clowney has never had a double digit sack season
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