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Saints and Ramczyk agree to a restructured contract

Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:51 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:51 am
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The Saints and RT Ryan Ramczyk agreed to a reworked contract that guarantees him $6.5M in 2024 (he previously had no remaining guarantees), with significant upside available as well.

Ramczyk’s cap number was $27.025M prior to this, but this deal will create cap savings for New Orleans.
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:53 am to
Posted by Spelt it rong
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:12 am to
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Ramczyk’s cap number was $27.025M prior to this, but this deal will create cap savings for New Orleans.

So what is it now? I'm honestly so confused at how Loomis has structured and restructured everyone's deals that I can't keep up.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:14 am to
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So what is it now?
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:16 am to
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Ramczyk’s base salary drops to vet minimum. Rest of the $6.5 million converted to a signing bonus. Can earn a lot back in a 2025 escalator

I’m assuming it saved $20mm?
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:18 am to
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I’m assuming it saved $20mm?


possible i guess. a june 1st cut designation would have saved 17 million if that means anything.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:20 am to
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Can earn a lot back in a 2025 escalator


I've heard that in 2025 the Saints organization is going to evaporate into the atmosphere and vanish so I don't see a escalator clause being a problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:24 am to
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So what is it now? I'm honestly so confused at how Loomis has structured and restructured everyone's deals that I can't keep up.

I dunno but I am curious.

NFL reporting got real shitty a while back when "guaranteed money" became the buzzword.

The devil will be in the details.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:26 am to
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Ramczyk’s base salary drops to vet minimum. Rest of the $6.5 million converted to a signing bonus.


His base salary for 2024 was $17M.

Unless the vet min is $10M, we're missing some details.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:30 am to
His cap hit was $27mm, now:

Base salary $1mm ish
Guaranteed money $6.5mm

27-7.5 = $19.5mm saved? This is in no way informed, just my initial reaction

I could see base salary only being relevant but we’ll see
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:32 am to
His cap hit before the restructure was $17M salary & $10M in prorated bonuses. Have to assume they can't touch/stretch the bonus money. So if $6.5M is guaranteed, does that mean it's $6.5M salary, $10M from previous bonus, and now $10.5M over the next 5 years ($2.1M per year for 5 years)?

Would drop his cap hit from $27M to 18.6M; saving about $8.4M from the cap?
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:38 am to
Underhill just said it saved $14mm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:42 am to
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Underhill just said it saved $14mm

Proximo guess: $19.5M savings
Weekend Warrior79 guess: $8.4M savings

average of the 2: $13.95M
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:46 am to
rossjackson just posted this thinking.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:56 am to
Mickey needs to hire us
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:01 am to
Either he cut his base salary, got a roster bonus, or there is a hidden extension in there.
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:02 am to
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Underhill just said it saved $14mm

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:02 am to
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Either he cut his base salary, got a roster bonus, or there is a hidden extension in there.

Posted by blizzle
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:09 am to
I hope this is an indication that his offseason knee management plan is working and we think he'll be healthy in '24 (and '25?)
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:11 am to
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I hope this is an indication that his offseason knee management plan is working and we think he'll be healthy in '24 (and '25?)


Kat threw out a possible mt contract comparison from last year. It could be plausible that it could be last year or if things go well, workout one final extension of sorts.
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