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re: Saints and Ramczyk agree to a restructured contract
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:15 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:15 am to Chad504boy
2021-saints are fricked cap wise
2022-saints are fricked cap wise
2023-saints are fricked cap wise
2024-saints are fricked cap wise
Never fricking doubt the saints ability to manipulate the cap.
2022-saints are fricked cap wise
2023-saints are fricked cap wise
2024-saints are fricked cap wise
Never fricking doubt the saints ability to manipulate the cap.
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:28 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:38 am to Chad504boy
Where are we on the cap now? We good?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:42 am to whodatfan
$11 million under I believe. We were about net zero prior to the Ram restructure, minus the $3mm Gay contract
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:43 am to whatiknowsofar
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Never fricking doubt the saints ability to manipulate the cap.
2021 9-8 did not make playoffs
2022 7-10 did not make playoffs
2023 9-8 did not make playoffs *
* despite one of the easiest schedules in league
It’s not about whether they will be under the cap and be compliant it’s about the quality of the roster. The Saints have one of the oldest and most expensive rosters in the NFL a FO is “win now” mode and have zero to show for it for 3 years. The ceiling is win a crappy division and maybe if you get a lucky matchup in the WC round win a playoff game. They are extending ie committing to more years for aging declining players.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:44 am to Chad504boy
Ok as long as it's for short term deal signings.
Nothing long term or yugge.
Nothing long term or yugge.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:50 am to whodatfan
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Where are we on the cap now? We good?
Tina Howell
@TheNolaGirl
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10m
The Saints currently have a little over 15M in cap space according to Over the Cap.
(15.097)
But this is before the added Gay dude.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:59 am to Chad504boy
Rampop!
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:04 am to blizzle
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I hope this is an indication that his offseason knee management plan is working and we think he'll be healthy in '24 (and '25?)
If he took a pay cut, with 1.2 million being the base salary or whatever and the rest being a signing bonus, which would effectively make the 6.5 guarantee, then I see it the opposite where he's trying one last time instead of being cut with a major injury flag.
He's getting possibly his last $6.5M it may not get anything else which is why he wanted it guaranteed
The rough math in my head makes this save about 14M
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:09 am to H-Town Tiger
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2021 9-8 did not make playoffs
2022 7-10 did not make playoffs
starting qb was injured both years. Trevor fricking Siemien and Andy Dalton weren't winning you shitn that year anyways.
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2023 9-8 did not make playoffs *
One game away and I'd put a lot of the blame on Pete Carmichael. He's gone now.
Saints aren't that far away from getting back to the playoffs. I wish they would reset like you, but let's not act like they've been playing with a full deck of cards the past 3 seasons.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:26 am to whatiknowsofar
Not only that, but there is only a 2.4 years difference between the youngest and oldest rosters.
Their argument is that we shouldn't pay Demario "All Pro" Davis or Cam "had an ankle injury most of the season" because we want our average number to come down
Hell, the Jets had the youngest roster one season and the 2nd oldest two years later.
It. doesn't. matter. Keep. our. good. players.
Their argument is that we shouldn't pay Demario "All Pro" Davis or Cam "had an ankle injury most of the season" because we want our average number to come down
Hell, the Jets had the youngest roster one season and the 2nd oldest two years later.
It. doesn't. matter. Keep. our. good. players.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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The rough math in my head makes this save about 14M
what a douchenozzle.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
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9:38 am Underhill just said it saved $14mm
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11:08 am The rough math in my head makes this save about 14M
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what a douchenozzle.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:44 am to Proximo
Chad has lost it. I was giving a way for this to save 14M
And looking at OTC, I think I'm right. If they're correct, he gave up about $11M in salary in exchange for a base salary and like $5M in a signing bonus.
We're saving the $11M (ish) base reduction and the $3.23M pro-ration($5.3M over 3 years is 1.76M per). There is your $14M.
Good business for Saints assuming he can play. But I think this signals it's his last year without a miracle recovery.
This also likely pushes his huge dead cap into 2026.
And looking at OTC, I think I'm right. If they're correct, he gave up about $11M in salary in exchange for a base salary and like $5M in a signing bonus.
We're saving the $11M (ish) base reduction and the $3.23M pro-ration($5.3M over 3 years is 1.76M per). There is your $14M.
Good business for Saints assuming he can play. But I think this signals it's his last year without a miracle recovery.
This also likely pushes his huge dead cap into 2026.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:46 am to whatiknowsofar
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starting qb was injured both years. Trevor fricking Siemien and Andy Dalton weren't winning you shitn that year anyways.
Teams with Baker Mayfield and Joe Flacco who was at home til November made the playoffs
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Saints aren't that far away from getting back to the playoffs
That’s part of the problem The FO is in “win now” mode and so far they have failed to win shite since 2020. And the ceiling is the playoffs not a deep run. It’s a kind of purgatory I was fine with taking a swing with Winston in 21 still had a stacked D but when it didn’t work and the Payton quit, it was time bite the bullet but the Saints doubled down.
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but let's not act like they've been playing with a full deck of cards the past 3 seasons.
Every team has injuries. But how much of that lack of a full deck is the restraints of the cap ? Piss poor drafting has also been an issue. They need to hit on 14, no Penning, or Davenport Turner experiments or stupid trades like Olave and Penning
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Teams with Baker Mayfield and Joe Flacco who was at home til November made the playoffs
If you think Trevor semien and andy dalton are on the same level as baker and Joe you are unqualified to have further discussion on this subject sir.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:48 pm to Chad504boy
As long as Loomis is the GM we will be in cap hell forever.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:22 pm to whodatfan
Over the cap says that we are 15 million under the cap
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:22 pm to uptowntiger84
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As long as Loomis is the GM we will be in cap hell forever.
LA Chargers, Bills, and Dolphins are cutting talent left and right for cap reasons. Why is no one shitting on their cap strategy? The Saints, while their cap strategy is bonkers, has had to cut no one, effectively. They lost some in FA, sure, but not outright cap casualty.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:29 pm to SaintEB
Right, Chargers are effectively ruining Herberts career.
We are just ruining Carrs. Which is an acceptable loss lol
Chargers should absolutely be getting more crap for their stuff. They released Williams and will most likely be cutting a multiple of Bosa, Mack, Allen.
We are just ruining Carrs. Which is an acceptable loss lol
Chargers should absolutely be getting more crap for their stuff. They released Williams and will most likely be cutting a multiple of Bosa, Mack, Allen.
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