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Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:54 pm to WicKed WayZ
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then why not gamble on it?
Also, you do know that GMs lose their jobs for taking risks like that? Dave Gettleman (Giants) & Ryan Pace (Bears) recently lost their jobs for taking such risks on Mitch Trubisky & Daniel Jones. And despite all the positives John Lynch has done in San Francisco, he too will lose his job if Trey Lance doesn't pan out because not only did the 49ers take Lance high the draft, they traded up to get him. Don't forget Lynch also traded up in 2017 to get Reuben Foster who they had to cut & turned into a huge bust as well.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 2/1/22 at 4:24 am to BigBrod81
Lol dont be so condescending
You took that part completely out of context. The original point was in favor of Pickett and that if his one negative trait is that he has small hands then I think most teams will take that risk
You took that part completely out of context. The original point was in favor of Pickett and that if his one negative trait is that he has small hands then I think most teams will take that risk
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:49 am to NOSHAU
I was very vocal about it not being an issue with Burrow
But part of that argument was that there is probably a threshold. If your hand is big enough to grip x way around the football you’re probably fine.
But what’s that threshold? I dont Consider myself to have big hands and I can Get my hand to 9 inches. Sub 8 isn’t small for a Qb is just small
But part of that argument was that there is probably a threshold. If your hand is big enough to grip x way around the football you’re probably fine.
But what’s that threshold? I dont Consider myself to have big hands and I can Get my hand to 9 inches. Sub 8 isn’t small for a Qb is just small
Posted on 2/1/22 at 9:31 am to SammyTiger
Taysom hill deep balls are what happens when you have very small hands. It’s not so much fumbles, though that is important too. It’s controlling the football at all levels as a thrower.
It’s why none of these sub 9” guys are regular starters
Maybe Pickett can break that trend. I’m certainly not gambling on it in the first round though.
Is he that good or was he just a 5th year guy, older than everyone(24 in June) else in the same system for 3 years? Why was he just average the rest of his career? I haven’t burned his tape but he has some immediate red flags
It’s why none of these sub 9” guys are regular starters
Maybe Pickett can break that trend. I’m certainly not gambling on it in the first round though.
Is he that good or was he just a 5th year guy, older than everyone(24 in June) else in the same system for 3 years? Why was he just average the rest of his career? I haven’t burned his tape but he has some immediate red flags
Posted on 2/1/22 at 10:41 am to Lester Earl
Take a look at his tape and tell us all about his troubles throwing the ball at all levels. I didn’t see anything. Have you even watched him at all? 
Ahhh there it is
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I haven’t burned his tape
Ahhh there it is
Posted on 2/1/22 at 10:48 am to Lester Earl
Why do they have that goofy formation under each QB. Just looks odd and out of place.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:10 am to WicKed WayZ
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Take a look at his tape and tell us all about his troubles throwing the ball at all levels. I didn’t see anything.
He started 3 years prior to this year & was a nobody.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:57 am to Lester Earl
Burrow had small hands too
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:16 pm to Lester Earl
Burrow was a nobody too. Should we discount his final year and only count his first year starting?
And you still haven’t actually watched him play yet you’re shitting all over him
And you still haven’t actually watched him play yet you’re shitting all over him
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:23 pm to sunnydaze
Small, not tiny
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:29 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Burrow was a nobody too. Should we discount his final year and only count his first year starting?
Burrow sat behind the best QB in Ohio st history, and then another 1st rd pick
He didn’t start for 3 years and not improve.
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And you still haven’t actually watched him play yet you’re shitting all over him
I haven’t shitted on him at all. If his hands are 8.25 that is going to be an issue. That is a fairly universal take. That is how evaluations start.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:33 pm to Lester Earl
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Taysom hill deep balls are what happens when you have very small hands. It’s not so much fumbles, though that is important too. It’s controlling the football at all levels as a thrower.
It’s why none of these sub 9” guys are regular starters
I'm not buying that's why taysom's deep balls are bad. It's more than just hand size.
Burrow has 9" hands and throws a beautiful ball
If I'm not mistaken you questioned burrow's hand size before that draft.
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:35 pm to BigBrod81
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Don't forget Lynch also traded up in 2017 to get Reuben Foster who they had to cut & turned into a huge bust as well.
And the saints would've picked him if they didn't.
Never going to bat 100 in the draft.
I think they might go with pederson to help with the drafting of a qb.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:45 pm to Chalkywhite84
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I'm not mistaken you questioned burrow's hand size before that draft.
It only came into question when being labeled the “best QB prospect ever”.
I’ve been pro burrow when people were calling him Danny Etling in 2018.
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I'm not buying that's why taysom's deep balls are bad. It's more than just hand size.
Nope; it’s definitely his hands. He can throw darts on shorter routes. He can’t get on top of the ball when throwing deep.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:13 pm to Lester Earl
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Nope; it’s definitely his hands. He can throw darts on shorter routes. He can’t get on top of the ball when throwing deep.
Absurd. Zero data to support this. Grip strength has nothing to do with hand size. Vick had 8.5” hands and had no issue slinging the ball 60+ yards. Taysom hill just sucks at throwing deep balls. It has absolutely nothing to do with his hand size.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:26 pm to Chalkywhite84
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And the saints would've picked him if they didn't.
Which would have been a mistake.
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Never going to bat 100 in the draft.
True but you don't ignore serious red flags either as Foster was a perfect example of that. But it wasn't JUST that Lynch took a gamble, he traded up to do. Same goes for Trey Lance.
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The 49ers moved up to No. 3 overall to select Trey Lance. The price tag for such a decision included first-round picks in the 2022 and ’23 NFL Drafts, as well as a third-round selection in 2022.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:31 pm to Not Cooper
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Grip strength has nothing to do with hand size.
Grip strength on a football? Sure it does
General grip strength? No
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Taysom hill just sucks at throwing deep balls. It has absolutely nothing to do with his hand size
Right. He just happens to under throw every one. He just isn’t strong enough I guess
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:32 pm to Lester Earl
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I haven’t shitted on him at all. If his hands are 8.25 that is going to be an issue. That is a fairly universal take. That is how evaluations start.
You should know by now there are always going to be posters who try to discredit actual facts like this every draft season. It's like clockwork.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 1:39 pm to BigBrod81
Yea I mean I have nothing against the guy. 1st round you are looking to be risk averse. I’m just not sure he outstanding enough in other areas to take that gamble on.
Compared to a guy like say Kyler Murray, who broke QB size barriers. He had other traits that were worth gambling on.
Compared to a guy like say Kyler Murray, who broke QB size barriers. He had other traits that were worth gambling on.
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