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re: Penning graded highest of 1st rd offensive rookies after week 1 of preseason.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:22 pm to tigersquad89
Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:22 pm to tigersquad89
I think PFF missed the mark here. Penning got beat pretty repeatedly against the pass rush. For a couple of series, we changed our entire offense and blocking schemes to give him help on that side.
He did well against the run and he did have a few nice pash rush reps. But a 90 grade is disingenuous. I have hope for him later this year or next year or as an extra run blocker on day 1, but he’s not ready to be a day 1 starter at LT.
He did well against the run and he did have a few nice pash rush reps. But a 90 grade is disingenuous. I have hope for him later this year or next year or as an extra run blocker on day 1, but he’s not ready to be a day 1 starter at LT.
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 5:47 pm to tankyank13
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He looked great against the run.
He plays defense now.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:32 pm to Chad504boy
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Am I wrong?
Did you really say that penning is a bust?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:49 pm to Chalkywhite84
I said he’s a year 1 bust in the sense Olave is a year 1 stud.
Penning was abused nearly every passing attempt in first half. Still need to watch second half.
Penning was abused nearly every passing attempt in first half. Still need to watch second half.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:33 pm to LSUPilot07
If Hurst is our starter at LT I'd be looking to play Penning at Guard, he could be a top 5-10 Guard this year
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:05 pm to tigersquad89
Some context
57 snaps
29 runs - 98.6 grade
28 passes - 28.6 grade
I don’t think anyone is claiming he did well in pass pro. He will be a fine guard
57 snaps
29 runs - 98.6 grade
28 passes - 28.6 grade
I don’t think anyone is claiming he did well in pass pro. He will be a fine guard
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:04 pm to dutchrudda
TA was also a fourth rounder
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:07 pm to Chad504boy
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My only comment about penning was year 1. It’s a disappointment if he doesn’t beat out hurst.
That’s an idiotic take. No way i thought coming from a small school he would start year one. I knew this when he was drafted.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:18 pm to tigersquad89
I thought he played bad. That's is interesting.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:30 pm to saintsfan1977
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Armstead and Roaf both took awhile before they were ready.
Roaf was a stud the second he put on a jersey.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:39 pm to tigersquad89
I hope Penning pans out, but that grade makes no sense at all.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:48 pm to Mulkey Man
Even if he doesn't pan out at tackle he will replace ruiz at guard.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:05 pm to GynoSandberg
That makes a lot more sense. Still not sure how that averages out to a 90 plus overall grade per PFF.
63.6 is the average if you just divide by 2. Round up to 64 since there was one more run than pass. That seems about right based off what we saw.
63.6 is the average if you just divide by 2. Round up to 64 since there was one more run than pass. That seems about right based off what we saw.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:07 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:How in the hell do those grades on basically the same amount of plays each, average to a 90+ overall grade? PFF once again showing how much of a joke their "grading" is. Makes zero sense.
Some context
57 snaps
29 runs - 98.6 grade
28 passes - 28.6 grade
I don’t think anyone is claiming he did well in pass pro. He will be a fine guard
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:37 pm to tigersquad89
He looked every bit a starter in run blocking, but his pass blocking could use some work.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:10 am to 3PieceSpicy
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I think PFF missed the mark here. Penning got beat pretty repeatedly against the pass rush. For a couple of series, we changed our entire offense and blocking schemes to give him help on that side.
He did well against the run and he did have a few nice pash rush reps. But a 90 grade is disingenuous. I have hope for him later this year or next year or as an extra run blocker on day 1, but he’s not ready to be a day 1 starter at LT.
I agree with this assessment wholeheartedly. I was at the game and sat literally on the 50 yard line in the 500 section. So I had a really good view (like being in the pressbox) of the game from an overhead perspective.
If Penning graded the "best" among all rookie 1st round picks, then that does speak very well of the 2022 rookie class. Penning is obviously a big, strong guy who is very nimble. However, this 1st NFL game showed me that he has a lot to learn. While I thought that some of his pass block reps were Ok, he really struggled in pass pro. It wasn't as if he was going up against top line NFL defensive ends. On one particular play he got beat on an inside move and fell to the ground. Even my daughter was like "really?" when she saw the replay.
At this point I am not expecting Trevor to slide into the the starting LT spot anytime soon. Hurst may not be great, but he'll definitely get the job done. I'm just hoping at this point that Marrone and Zach can refine Penning's raw talent and get him to play with more control.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:47 am to Chad504boy
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Only takes one snap to end your starting QB’s season
Yeah, if your name is Taysom Hill and that play is a pass.
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He will be a fine guard
Peat will inevitably be out for several games at different points during the season and Penning will have ample opportunity to play guard.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:56 am to NOSHAU
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How in the hell do those grades on basically the same amount of plays each, average to a 90+ overall grade? PFF once again showing how much of a joke their "grading" is. Makes zero sense.
yep. his pass blocking was horrible and we were fortunate on a couple of them. ian book's knee was almost destroyed on first play in 2nd half.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:03 am to Chad504boy
quote:With Winston, it's one practice
Only takes one snap to end your starting QB’s season
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:10 am to Chad504boy
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Penning was abused nearly every passing attempt in first half. Still need to watch second half.
I admire you taking your stand, but take the L and move on from this.
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