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Payton: Why all the love for him?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:36 am
I'm a bit baffled by all the fear of and anger at Payton leaving for another team. Considering that the previous 2 seasons have been 7-9 finishes (those records are better than the actual teams), it begs the question why there is so much animosity at the thought of him leaving. Yes he brought us some great seasons along with a Super Bowl; however, his teams of late have been poorly coached messes.
I personally am happy with him leaving or staying. I think he has done enough to warrant more opportunities to fix this team, but I also think he has damaged it enough to be sent off and allow a new coach to attempt the fix. I understand both sides of the fence.
I don't get the absolute fanaticism regarding him remaining as coach though. Can some of you explain this to me?
I personally am happy with him leaving or staying. I think he has done enough to warrant more opportunities to fix this team, but I also think he has damaged it enough to be sent off and allow a new coach to attempt the fix. I understand both sides of the fence.
I don't get the absolute fanaticism regarding him remaining as coach though. Can some of you explain this to me?
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:38 am to Midget Death Squad
He's a good coach in a league filled with shitty coaches.
Good coaches are hard to find.
Good coaches are hard to find.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:39 am to Midget Death Squad
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Can some of you explain this to me?
fear
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:39 am to Midget Death Squad
It probably has more to do with the fear of the unknown. Who could we draw as a replacement? Sure we still have Brees, but the defense is a mess albeit with some nice young pieces.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:39 am to Patrick O Rly
be more original next time paddy. 
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:41 am to Chad504boy
I could be original or i could be accurate.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:41 am to Midget Death Squad
Tell me who would be a better alternative? We've made poor personnel decisions. It is a godsend that we've gone 7-9 the last two seasons. I know a lot of it is Drew but look what he did with the backup generator for that one game this year. He's a solid coach.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:42 am to Midget Death Squad
I never imagined the Saints would win a SB. Then Payton came along. Enough said.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:42 am to Midget Death Squad
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Can some of you explain this to me?
I'm afraid Ditka will be the next coach if SP leaves.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:43 am to Midget Death Squad
He is a great coach. He has shown tendencies to miss a lot on players he drafts/signs to FA. Now if the GM portion of his resume is mostly because Loomis has made those decisions (unlikely) than his star is less tarnished. Had he had a stronger football knowledgeable GM, sky's the limit. He also needs to get rid of his cronies. Other than that he is as good as it gets in the NFL. It's kind of like QBs. There are really not that many worth a damn right now. If you have a truly elite QB, you hold on to it. Even if they aren't perfect. Payton fits that bill as a coach.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:46 am to Patrick O Rly
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fear of the unknown
This is my main concern as well. We could trade one coach for a bad one. We may get a coach that will keep us at 5-7 wins... oh wait.
I am unsure that Payton can right this. This season should've been a team that started off shitty and showed progress down the stretch. That didn't happen.
What I have been seeing though is less fear of the unknown and more white knuckle gripping onto Payton as the greatest coach in the league. It appears the loudest Payton champions here believe he is still the savior, yet his previous 2 seasons tell a different tale. I'm confused as to why the passionate belief he is this phenomenal coach.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:47 am to LSUlefty
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I never imagined the Saints would win a SB. Then Payton came along. Enough said.
This.
Just think back on our coaching history and tell me if you truly feel confident we'll strike gold like that again.
An argument could be made that the championship foundation has been laid and it won't be as much of a challenge for anyone incoming, but who knows.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:47 am to Midget Death Squad
Answer this:
Who could we bring in that would be better?
Who could we bring in that would be better?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:48 am to Midget Death Squad
If someone really has to explain it to you why the Saints should keep Payton, then you just don't get it and never will.
He is one of the best coaches in the league. Top 5. Maybe Top 3. Easily.
He turned a historical bottom-dwelling franchise into one of the most successful franchises of the last 10 years. Notice the team started to slide when all the turmoil began with the ownership. Notice how when Loomis started becoming involved with Pelican operations, things started to slip even more. The front office is a mess. The ownership is a mess.
If we lost Payton, we would not be able to replace him with someone equal or better.
I agree things have been frustrating this season, and the past season, but I want Payton running this team to try and get those problems righted. We had a really solid draft (finally) but we whiffed all over free agency. Time to have another good draft and finally figure out free agency.
We have maybe 2-3 years to make one more serious run, and unless Payton stays on board with the heir to Brees, it's going to be a long time before the Saints get back to what they were under Payton and Brees.
He is one of the best coaches in the league. Top 5. Maybe Top 3. Easily.
He turned a historical bottom-dwelling franchise into one of the most successful franchises of the last 10 years. Notice the team started to slide when all the turmoil began with the ownership. Notice how when Loomis started becoming involved with Pelican operations, things started to slip even more. The front office is a mess. The ownership is a mess.
If we lost Payton, we would not be able to replace him with someone equal or better.
I agree things have been frustrating this season, and the past season, but I want Payton running this team to try and get those problems righted. We had a really solid draft (finally) but we whiffed all over free agency. Time to have another good draft and finally figure out free agency.
We have maybe 2-3 years to make one more serious run, and unless Payton stays on board with the heir to Brees, it's going to be a long time before the Saints get back to what they were under Payton and Brees.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:49 am to Midget Death Squad
He's one of the best coaches in the league, evidenced by every team with an opening trying to catch his ear. While he's had some rough patches, many due to front office decisions, he has mostly been consistent.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:50 am to Midget Death Squad
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I'm confused as to why the passionate belief he is this phenomenal coach.
Because he is when he has a competent counterpart. The man knows offense. He's made some bad hires though.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:51 am to Rickety Cricket
At his worst he is a 7-9 coach
That is with shitty personnel, and a GM fricking this team over with terrible contracts
That is with shitty personnel, and a GM fricking this team over with terrible contracts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:52 am to CocoLoco
We carried the most dead money this year and played the most rookies I believe.
Our offense struggled with a bad o-line and a young WR corps.
Our offense struggled with a bad o-line and a young WR corps.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:53 am to LSUZombie
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If someone really has to explain it to you why the Saints should keep Payton, then you just don't get it and never will.
He is one of the best coaches in the league. Top 5. Maybe Top 3. Easily.
Does a "top 5 maybe top 3 easily" coach turn in two bad season in a row? Come on now. This is irrational talk.
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If we lost Payton, we would not be able to replace him with someone equal or better.
This is complete bullshite. If that's the case, then why are there 12 other teams in the playoffs? Each of those teams had to replace their previous coach at some point, and each of those teams are winning right now.
If you were to say we have no guarantee of getting a better coach, then you could be taken more seriously.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:55 am to Midget Death Squad
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Does a "top 5 maybe top 3 easily" coach turn in two bad season in a row? Come on now. This is irrational talk.
He does when he's handcuffed by an incompetent front office
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This is complete bullshite. If that's the case, then why are there 12 other teams in the playoffs? Each of those teams had to replace their previous coach at some point, and each of those teams are winning right now.
Name me someone you view that is equal or better than Payton who is available for hire. I'll wait...
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