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re: NFLPA Director begins push for all stadiums to move to natural grass

Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8181 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:15 pm to
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And sacrifice every other event held in the Dome?


This is the big thing, many of these places are jot single use facilities like Tiger Stadium.

They turn these places over sometimes 7 times a week for a multitude of diff events.


Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
10602 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:18 pm to
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I do not see how the dome could do this

NRG Stadium used to bring the field in on pallets.
Posted by brewdrees
Member since Aug 2018
5567 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:23 pm to
Stupid just because of Rodgers but another player got a torn ACL on grass.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74905 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:30 pm to
I remember that. People with allergies had issues. I wonder if that's why it never returned.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63688 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:56 pm to
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Am I the only 1 who remembers the Saints playing the Packers in a preseason game in the late 90s/early 2000s where they tested natural grass inside the Superdome


It’s the practicality and maintenance of such a system.

You don’t need to only grow grass and move it into the dome. You have to be able to put a quality surface out there every week even after it’s torn up the week before.

And the logistics and cost of it of course are issues.

It’s the same thing for these soccer fields. Doing for a short term is very different than being able to maintain and grow a quality field in places that are cold in the winter.

Artificial turf fields and the associated injuries are unfortunately are a cost of doing business. I saw they are testing a cork vs rubber base that’s supposed to be better.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41699 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:09 pm to
There have been a number of trials over the years regarding moving grass into domed stadiums using containers.

They all have the same issue... the seams between the containers never grow in and cause grip problems.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41699 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Plus it renders the effectiveness of a stadium facility to be multi-use completely useless.


This is the real issue.

Teams ask cities to pony up hundreds of millions, if not more, to build these stadiums.

The cities want to be able to use these massive investments for more than 10-12 football games per year.

Grass takes a while to take hold and when it dies, it's even worse.

I think the push needs to be how to reduce injuries on turf. Not all turf fields are that bad.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11990 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:49 pm to
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Would have to move the entire Smoothie King Center or a parking garage.

Well, Pelicans want a new arena anyway
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11968 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:12 pm to
I believe Saints, Vikings, and Lions are the only domed teams that don’t have a retractable roof

Really wonder what they plan to do about that.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8849 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:18 pm to
if it prevens any additonal saints players getting turf tow im down
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19689 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:24 pm to
I love all of these “no way” comments. The NFL has the money to do what the want. Get some UV lights in the damn dome. Are you saying grass cant be grown indoors?
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79982 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:29 pm to
This is stupid

Come November, places like Chicago, Cleveland, and Pittsburg are painted dirt. Ask Robert Griffin about that great natural grass in Washington.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

quote:
I do not see how the dome could do this.



Grow Lights.


..I can do it. I could do this for us.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22268 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:52 pm to
Your statement is 100% correct. But at the same time it’s a slap in the face of the NFL players when teams/stadiums are bending over backwards to switch to natural grass for the World Cup; but not even considering it for their actual investments/assets
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1593 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Your statement is 100% correct. But at the same time it’s a slap in the face of the NFL players when teams/stadiums are bending over backwards to switch to natural grass for the World Cup; but not even considering it for their actual investments/assets


2 things here:

1. It's only for 2 to 4 weeks.

2. Just wait. The biggest complaint for the WC will be pitch condition. These makeshift grass fields they are bringing in are going to be complete garbage. Always are. Remember the Super Bowl and the 2 week old field that was played on?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128551 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:50 pm to
Do they not wear different cleats for playing on turf? He had long spikes on which got caught in the turf causing his injury.
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
1184 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:12 pm to
The NFL owners wipe their asses with money.

Don’t you think protecting your million dollar assets (players) is worth a little more $ in grass maintenance?

__________________________________________________.


No, it's a business. Save money and make more.

Which is why they're billionaires and we are on a website talking about artificial turf and injuries
Posted by Sun Belt Billy
Member since Aug 2023
200 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:20 pm to
Was it the turf or that downpour that got absorbed during the Giants game less than 24hrs ago
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22268 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Do they not wear different cleats for playing on turf? He had long spikes on which got caught in the turf causing his injury.

That would require some personal accountability on behalf of the players and training staff. Much better to keep doing what they are doing and blame the turf; even though the same injuries have happens on grass fields
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22268 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 12:22 pm to
I remember the shite show that was the SB in Zona and also when SF tried to bring in grass to their old stadium a few years ago.

I’m just saying I get the players arguement about them bending over backwards for the World Cup but not for them
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 12:24 pm
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