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re: Name a better NFC South QB than Carr?

Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
Ok so he goes 8-9 get blown out in playoffs. Is that the goal??
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7896 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:11 pm to
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It’s the albatross of a contract


I swear some of you idiots apparently thought he would play for free? Exactly what did you think he would sign for?
Its not even remotely out of line for a middle of the road (if not better)NFL starter, who had several teams after him. Oh wait I saw who posted this. Dumb as ever.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22022 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:20 pm to
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Why the hell would you take Carr over Dak or Cousins?



I’m not arguing that the Saints are not in cap hell. So don’t twist my words.

But I’d take Carr over Dak all day. And cousins it’s a wash.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10687 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:24 pm to
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They must have consulted with Scott Woodward on how much to pay!!


Woodward hires a coach that takes us from worst to first in the SEC West and wins 1 less game than the previous two seasons COMBINED.

And your take on this is to throw shade on him for spending too much of the budget he was allocated to hire said coach?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:34 pm to
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But I’d take Carr over Dak all day


Based on what? Dak has better stats and better team success.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:40 pm to
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They must have consulted with Scott Woodward on how much to pay!!


I missed this stupidity

A player in a sport with a salary cap there is some valid concern on the impact to the overall cap, but a coach? Why do people get upset with the salary? They get way too hung up in the numbers.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5907 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:03 am to
You don’t follow football too much, ehh
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7153 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:16 am to
People here forget Dak is a Louisiana kid that wanted to play at LSU, but Les Miles was a retard and only offered him to play fullback.

So he went to State and bashed LSU’s faces for the next 5 years. Now he’s a Dallas Cowboy and he just had his first bad season in the NFL (due to an injured thumb in his throwing hand)

And people are all wet about Carr now. It’s a really bad board in terms of bias and homerism. So I actually do think 90% of the people on here have convinced themselves that Carr is better than Dak at this point.

However, if we had somehow Traded for Dak instead, this board would have done a 180 and been saying the exact opposite. It’s a very reactionary, tribalistic board for the most part.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:09 am to
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So he went to State and bashed LSU’s faces for the next 5 years


He played in 3 games against LSU and was 1-2
LINK

Bias/ homerism is a part of it and Cowboys hate is another factor. Because they lost in the playoffs and Prescott played poorly people overreact with the bashing, same thing happened with Romo.




Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:17 am to
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But I’d take Carr over Dak all day


state your reasons why.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7153 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:01 pm to
If you look at the history of State vs LSU, beating them once in Tiger Stadium and coming within a play of beating them again in Tiger Stadium is pretty damn strong for a Mississippi State team that had almost zero history of being decent before Dak got there.

The overall talent gap between the 2 teams was so damn wide.

Dak would’ve won a Natty or 2 at LSU
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:37 pm to
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If you look at the history of State vs LSU, beating them once in Tiger Stadium and coming within a play of beating them again in Tiger Stadium is pretty damn strong for a Mississippi State team that had almost zero history of being decent before Dak got there.


You are moving the goal posts
FTR I’ve been mocking the people saying Carr is better than Prescott. I think Dak is better by a decent margin.

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The overall talent gap between the 2 teams was so damn wide.


Was it? That was 2013-2015 not exactly great LSU teams. It’s not like State has no pros. Wasn’t Chris Jones on those teams? Mckinney, Redmon and P Smith I think we’re all top 3 round picks

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Dak would’ve won a Natty or 2 at LSU


The problem I have with statements like this is we assume he’s the same player in any situation. Like coaching and schemes/systems have zero impact. I would argue it was Mullen’s coaching and development, his offensive system and schemes that made Dak a better player and that wouldn’t have happened at LSU with Miles and Cameron. Not to defend Miles but all the other big boys passed too. Why wasn’t he at Auburn or Florida? IMO Mullen and State made Prescott what he became

ETA obviously the player has to have talent and also has to work at the craft, but I do think coaching and development matters and some players work better is certain systems
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Geauxldninja
Member since May 2018
2135 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:37 pm to
There are maybe 3 QBs in the league who were better than Goff the last 10 games of the season and Carr was not one of them.

Goff just had by far a better season than Carr has ever had.. people shitting on Goff didn’t watch the lions this year, he was good and they are gonna be a really good team next year.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:50 pm to
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Goff just had by far a better season than Carr has ever had.


They’re literally the same QB. One just had Sean McVay, Todd Gurley, Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods and Brandin Cooks for most of his career

Career comp%
Carr 64.6%
Goff 64.2

TD%
Carr 4.4
Goff 4.4

INT%
Carr 2.0
Goff 2.0

QB Rating
Carr 91.8
Goff 92.8

If you think Goff can’t get the job done, then so can Carr
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12012 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:07 pm to
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You don’t follow football too much, ehh


My left nut knows more football than you.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:12 pm to
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They’re literally the same QB. One just had Sean McVay, Todd Gurley, Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods and Brandin Cooks for most of his career


Goff had none of those guys last year, which is the year he was talking about.
Are AMRB Jamaal Williams/oft injured Swift better than Adams and Jacobs?
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1769 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:18 pm to
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Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7378 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:08 am to
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Name the best athlete at the Special Olympics


Jimmy Washington.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:47 am to
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Goff had none of those guys last year, which is the year he was talking about.
Are AMRB Jamaal Williams/oft injured Swift better than Adams and Jacobs?


Goff has 100 starts in the league, we don’t cherry pick a 10 game sample and deem one guy superior to the other. Carr went 12-3 once and was 3rd in MVP voting, it doesn’t take precedent over his mediocre resume over 142 starts
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59960 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:50 am to
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Goff has 100 starts in the league, we don’t cherry pick a 10 game sample and deem one guy superior to the other. Carr went 12-3 once and was 3rd in MVP voting, it doesn’t take precedent over his mediocre resume over 142 starts


He specifically said the last 10 games of last season. Also isn’t LAST SEASON a better indicator of how some one might play next season than 2016?

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