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Posted on 4/15/22 at 3:38 pm to msstate7
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Would you take him? What would it cost?
It would cost similar in picks and salary to what Watson received for a very undersized QB who hasn’t done anything of note in this league
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:02 pm to higgsBoson
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If you look at the last 10 SBs, only 3 won with a non-elite QB
The issue is he is not an elite QB. Will he be one day? Possibly, but I don't want to spend $200,000,000 finding out.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:13 pm to cbree88
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Sounds like Brandin Cooks
Brandon Cooks wouldn't be asking for $40M per year and doesn't have the entire offense on his shoulders.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 4/15/22 at 4:44 pm to BRL79
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Brandon Cooks wouldn't be asking for $40M per year and doesn't have the entire defense on his shoulders.
Brandin Cooks plays defense now?
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/15/22 at 5:38 pm to msstate7
I'd rather have Jameis than that little guy. He looks ridiculous out there 
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 4/15/22 at 5:53 pm to msstate7
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Kyler Murray
Is garbage
Would rather roll with the Red Rifle
Posted on 4/15/22 at 6:52 pm to msstate7
About the same size as Brees with a lot more mobility. Depending on the price, would be a good add with Winston in the trade.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:23 pm to Rohan Gravy
Thank you Stafford over Kyler Murray is a no brainer.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 10:57 pm to msstate7
Hard pass. He's good for fantasy because he pads his stats with short TD runs and often goes off script just because he can when something safer is available. He will never get out of the wildcard round.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 11:36 pm to msstate7
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What would it cost?
most likely too much.
I'd bet they would be after Lattimore for starters. They need a lot of help at corner.
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Would you take him?
IMO, if you want to spend big on a QB and compromise other players salary on the team, he isn't one I'd do that for
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 4/16/22 at 5:07 am to higgsBoson
quote:Manning qas not elite when the Broncos won, either. So that means nearly half of the last 10 SBs have been won without an elite QB.
If you look at the last 10 SBs, only 3 won with a non-elite QB:
Los Angeles Rams 2022
Philadelphia Eagles 2018
Baltimore Ravens 2013
Your chances of winning with a non-elite QB is much much lower and requires you to have an almost perfect roster.
Posted on 4/16/22 at 8:50 am to msstate7
If this team was truly one player, one QB away from greatness...is this the guy you get?
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:45 pm to msstate7
Man didn’t realize how many smooth brained MFers posted on this board.
Kyler definitely has elite qualities and is in the upper tier of QBs in the league. EASILY.
Is he worth what Deshaun got? No. But Deshaun wasn’t worth what Deshaun got.
Now I’m a big Winston guy, think he’s a well above average QB and you can win with him. And at the price he signed for he’s an absolute no-brainer.
But to act like Kyler doesn’t have elite traits is laughable, you’d bring him here in a heartbeat if the price was right
Kyler definitely has elite qualities and is in the upper tier of QBs in the league. EASILY.
Is he worth what Deshaun got? No. But Deshaun wasn’t worth what Deshaun got.
Now I’m a big Winston guy, think he’s a well above average QB and you can win with him. And at the price he signed for he’s an absolute no-brainer.
But to act like Kyler doesn’t have elite traits is laughable, you’d bring him here in a heartbeat if the price was right
Posted on 4/16/22 at 4:49 pm to msstate7
Fuk no. Midget sux
Posted on 4/16/22 at 5:43 pm to Zzyzx
quote:I'm on the fence for this one, but think he has elite potential.
Man didn’t realize how many smooth brained MFers posted on this board.
Kyler definitely has elite qualities and is in the upper tier of QBs in the league. EASILY.
Is he worth what Deshaun got? No. But Deshaun wasn’t worth what Deshaun got.
Now I’m a big Winston guy, think he’s a well above average QB and you can win with him. And at the price he signed for he’s an absolute no-brainer.
But to act like Kyler doesn’t have elite traits is laughable, you’d bring him here in a heartbeat if the price was right
To others that said he's done nothing noteworthy, that's not fair.
He was OROY and is a 2 time pro-bowler in 3 seasons.
But there's also the meltdowns to end last season, playoff game, and now off-season.
I'm more of a soft pass, but wouldn't dismiss it for whatever reasons others are.
Posted on 4/17/22 at 8:59 am to Gravitiger
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Manning qas not elite when the Broncos won, either. So that means nearly half of the last 10 SBs have been won without an elite QB.
That’s a joke. Manning was definitely not elite physically but he was still elite mentally and that’s a huge part of being a successful QB.
And as others have said Stafford could be defined as elite. So maybe only 2/10 without elite QBs
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/17/22 at 9:09 am to higgsBoson
Lol, he couldn't throw it 20 yards. Here's his stats for 2015...
Passer rating - 67.9*
QBR - 44.2**
*only player lower was Ryan mallett
**29th out of 34 qualifiers
Elite!!!
His int % was dead last in the nfl, 5.1
Elite!!!
Yds/att - 5.1, only Ryan mallett was worse
Elite!!!
Passer rating - 67.9*
QBR - 44.2**
*only player lower was Ryan mallett
**29th out of 34 qualifiers
Elite!!!
His int % was dead last in the nfl, 5.1
Elite!!!
Yds/att - 5.1, only Ryan mallett was worse
Elite!!!
This post was edited on 4/17/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/17/22 at 5:32 pm to higgsBoson
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still elite mentally
Get this nonsense out of here. That version of Peyton Manning might literally be the worst starting qb to ever win a SB.
Murray is young, good, and exciting. I wouldn’t mind having him to root for on my team.
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