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re: How many chances does Rattler get if he continues to lose games
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:11 pm to BlacknGold
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:11 pm to BlacknGold
quote:Maybe. But he sure wasn't the reason we won either.
he wasnt the reason we los
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:15 pm to nicholastiger
He’ll be 0-4 after the loss to the Bills
Make the change then
Make the change then
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:15 pm to nicholastiger
Love sat 3 years behind Rogers.
Brady Sat behind bledso
Drew sat behind flutie
Manning started 3-13
Either you throw him in there and let him learn.
But both QBs are still developing.
Brady Sat behind bledso
Drew sat behind flutie
Manning started 3-13
Either you throw him in there and let him learn.
But both QBs are still developing.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:16 pm to nicholastiger
He will get the first 4 or 5 games.
You're not going to throw shough to the wolves on the road.
Win this week vs sf
Lose the next two weeks at Seattle and at Buffalo.
1-3 and you potentially match up vs nyg who might be 0-4 (@ Dallas, vs Kc, vs lac) or vs NE who might be 2-3 (@mia, vs Pittsburgh, vs Carolina, @buffalo)
You're not going to throw shough to the wolves on the road.
Win this week vs sf
Lose the next two weeks at Seattle and at Buffalo.
1-3 and you potentially match up vs nyg who might be 0-4 (@ Dallas, vs Kc, vs lac) or vs NE who might be 2-3 (@mia, vs Pittsburgh, vs Carolina, @buffalo)
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:28 pm to nicholastiger
I think every 4 games stretch and eval his performance
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:56 pm to saints5021
I don't think they draft a QB with the first round pick because it means you wasted the 2nd rounder on Shough. I think you either trade down to get more picks or you stay put and build a better supporting cast around Shough.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:15 pm to BRL79
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I agree. We'd pretty much be out of playoff chances starting 0-6 and would have nothing to lose.
I agree with around an 0-6 start. At that point, the pressure would be off of Shough, which may be a better situation for a rookie to come into.
And tbh, Rattler played better than I expected from him last week. He just doesn’t have that knack for making big plays that’s needed out of a starting QB (and neither does anyone else on our offense, not named Kamara).
I say split up the starts between Rattler and Shough, and make damn sure neither of these guys is the future franchise QB before spending a top 3 pick on a QB in the next Draft. It’s hard to judge though because our starting WR’s and TE would be backups on practically every other team in the league.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:30 pm to nicholastiger
While the fans are looking ahead to the future, Moore owes an obligation his players to try to win games. If he feels Rattler gives him the best chance to do it that's his call. However, I think if the Saints start 0-6 or even 1-7, the mindset will (internally) shift towards next season and Moore will start Shough the rest of the way (or at least for several games) to start the evaluation of whether they may have something in him at the QB position or if they will need to select a QB in the draft.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 4:08 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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He’ll be 0-4 after the loss to the Bills
Make the change then
If Tyler is ready, week 5 is the time. 2 consecutive home games against the Giants and Patriots, then to Chicago. Winnable games. Also allows for a 6-game stretch, the bye, then a 7-game stretch to finish the year. Plenty enough time to find out if he is the real deal or we need to draft.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 4:55 pm to nicholastiger
If the goal is to tank and get the highest pick you leave Rattler in. He won’t win a single game. Maybe 2 max if the defense somehow plays lights out. Realistically i think you see Shough around week 6-7 if Rattler looks like he has his entire career so far.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 6:04 pm to nicholastiger
Shough will likely start the game against the Giants if the Saints are winless
Posted on 9/12/25 at 6:05 pm to nicholastiger
quote:retarded fans will call for his head after 4 games. Moore will cave then they go 0-13 with Shough.
at what point do you give Shough a chance?
Nuss Bus coming to town
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:24 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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He’ll be 0-4
The Saints or Spencer Rattler?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:26 pm to High Life
Late career Brees would have this team at 1-0.
You are insufferable.
You are insufferable.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 7:26 am to saints5021
Shough will start within weeks 5-6. The earlier the better for a chance to evaluate him. I would think this was the plan for a rookie QB
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 7:28 am
Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:49 am to Sauce Castieaux
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Which is kinda why it was dumb to take shough without giving Rattler a legit shot.
How many more starts/losses does it take for 0-8 to have been given “a legit shot?”
The supporting cast is what it is no matter who is under center. The Saints have never won with 0-8. Eight chances is more than a legit shot with that cast. It’s time.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:29 am to Recoveringcajun
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How many more starts/losses does it take for 0-8 to have been given “a legit shot?”
The supporting cast is what it is no matter who is under center. The Saints have never won with 0-8. Eight chances is more than a legit shot with that cast. It’s time.
Are you counting the games last year in this? Because they mean nothing to me for the reasons I pointed out. New staff, new playbook, not having to deal with Carr trying to come back early...etc. Last year was not conducive for a young QB and I dont hold that against him. This year is what I will hold against him
I really dont know why anyone would be opposed to just giving him the rest of this season to evaluate. Do you think we are gona go on some magical run to get into the playoffs if we switch qbs midway?
The whole point is to let whoever is starting to make their mistakes and see if they can recover and learn. Winning should not matter much in an evaluation year.
This post was edited on 9/13/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:34 am to Sauce Castieaux
Opposed only if the coaching staff thinks Tyler can be better. Then you put him in. Not complicated. If he sucks terribly and not improving you put Ratt back in. What you don't do is leave a qb in when the players know he's done. Lose a team real quick that way and it's why it's seldom done.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:39 am to nicholastiger
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How many chances does Rattler get if he continues to lose games
wow, didn't realize that everyone on the roster had the same last name. that's amazing.
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