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How I'd try to fix the team (without firing Allen)

Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29759 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:22 am
I preface this by saying I want Allen gone because he's the definition of a loser head coach.

He does, however, have the defense playing at such a high level that if the offense had a pulse it would have us as contenders.

Carmichael needs to go and so does every position coach involved in the offense. If Loomis wants to keep Allen, then we need to hire an assistant from the 49ers, Dolphins, Bills, etc. and promote them to OC and let them put a staff together to get this offense to the modern age.

The key part is the OC is pretty much the HC in waiting.

My other option, which I'm not opposed, is to nuke the entire team, trade off assets, and start a true rebuild with Loomis moving to Team President and Khai Harley is promoted to acting GM.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:23 am
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1627 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:25 am to
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He does, however, have the defense playing at such a high level that if the offense had a pulse it would have us as contenders.


This is just not true. There are a bunch of good teams with great offense and defense. Saints aren’t close to being a contender. The NFC is strong.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:26 am to
Allen isn’t going to fix anything. The guy doesn’t know how to build or run a winning team.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:32 am to
quote:

How I'd try to fix the team (without firing Allen)


that makes as much sense as allowing your ex-wife to still have full access to your bank account

the problem with this team isnt the players, its the coaching
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:34 am to
I agree with you here. 18-41 for DA says its all.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22257 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:55 am to
If you are keeping DA and the defense, I would have to take a hard look at that Grantham hire. I think the D-line can be improved, at least find a way to get pressures more consistently.

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is to nuke the entire team, trade off assets, and start a true rebuild with Loomis moving to Team President and Khai Harley is promoted to acting GM.

This is a tough one. First of all, there are no assets to trade because anyone worth a shite has a huge poison pill in their contract that would kill the cap. In order to nuke the team, you would actually need to plan a multi-year approach to start getting rid of many of these contracts.

Also, you promote Harley, you most likely lose Ireland the same year. You promote Ireland, you will eventually lose Harley.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:35 am to
This is probably what they’re going to do. They won’t want to fire Dennis, in fact I’d say it’s absolutely not happening unless we lose out.

They’re gonna keep Dennis but scapegoat the offensive coaching staff and fire all of them, and do a completely new offense.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 am to
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Allen isn’t going to fix anything.


This is the problem.

I don't mind Dennis Allen, but when he's perfectly fine with the offense as it is, he puts himself in the crosshairs.

Allowing Carmichael to continue his role as OC is inexcusable.

"Well then who is gonna call the plays?"........literally anyone else. We only have 8 offensive TD's through 6 games, it can't get much worse (and if it did, we are losing these games with 1 TD per game anyways)
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
5010 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:34 pm to
Da aints are gonna aint folks !
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22257 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:53 pm to
Based on their coaching staff, the 2 best options are Curry & Marrone. Marrone because he has experience as an OC & former HC. Curry because he's inexperienced and you can give him a shot to prove what you have. Hell, maybe he shows enough that a team about to lose their OC in the offseason scoop hm up and the team gets a free future comp pick.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14485 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:26 pm to
When the head coach and OC can’t see there is a problem, there is no fixing this with a DA retention.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
8154 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:06 pm to
Demote Allen to DC you own his contract
Hire a bum of the street they would literally have a better win % then Allen
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28272 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:52 pm to
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The key part is the OC is pretty much the HC in waiting.


so you want Allen to hire his replacement?? good luck with that
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