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Fun Bunch
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First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA

For a long time the Saints have always signed someone...even bargain veterans, at virtually every position of need, addressed it in some way, so they could justify going BPA in the draft.

They clearly haven't done that this year. They have not addressed WR, OT in any appreciable way, and still have needs at positions like Safety that were at least partially addressed.

Do we think this is a change in philosophy? Or do they just feel like there will be a lot of FAs available after the draft they can still fill holes with?


saints5021
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Member since Jul 2010
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
Well, BPA got us Ruiz and Turner, so I am OK altering that strategy a bit.


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LSUPilot07
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
They will still pick the top player on their board it’s just how they operate which is the right way.


WhoGeaux
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2011
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
The new philosophy is that they play the comp pick game now. There are still a ton of veteran players on the market, which if signed after the draft will not count towards the comp pick formula.

In addition the draft philosophy may also be to let the draft play out, get the best players on your board, and then fill the needs with veteran players after the draft...which is the approach that more truly lends to drafting BPA


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mindbreaker
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Dec 2011
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
they signed a safety and two QBs at positions of need. I don't think it was a change in strategy as much as the difference between serviceable LT and WR pre draft is virtually the same as post draft. They weren't in the big money free agent market this year. So why not wait see how the draft falls out and then fill after. You can still go best player available and sign WR help after. LT I think they are okay with the stop gaps they have on the roster if they can't snag one in draft.


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Stevo1856
Member since Jan 2017
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
There’s been 200+ 1 year deals from the free agency pool. I believe the saints are going to let the draft unfold before them then make the best picks they can with what is available. This will likely be a combination of best player available and filling positions of need. The free agents will be there post draft if the saints want/need them. Why rush it and potentially tip your hand especially if you have similar values on the players remaining?


Fun Bunch
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Member since May 2008
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
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Saints GM Mickey Loomis acknowledged that the team hasn't completed as many items from the offseason to-do list as it normally does before the draft -- and said the cap situation is a part of that.

My read: Could still sign a vet or two after draft if they don't fill the "musts"


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cbree88
LSU Fan
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
NFL football scouting is very hit or Miss. it’s not an exact science at all. Therefore, I do not support a BPA strategy.

Like another poster said, BPA got us Cesar Ruiz.


saints5021
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Louisiana
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
FYI, the way we talk about BPA and the way the Saints actually draft BPA is totally different. We look at rankings and see that the #10 ranked guy is sitting there at #16 and think he is the BPA.

In reality, the Saints have a tiered bubble of players that they consider equivalent to each other. In 2017, that bubble included Mahomes and Lattimore. When the time comes for the pick, they are factoring in roster makeup, need, and projection of the player more than a straight 1-10 ranking.

So, this year, they may have a bubble of available players at #16 that include Jamerson Williams, Chris Olave, Trevor Penning, Jordan Davis and Kyle Hamilton, but "reach" and take Penning, based on positional importance. Mickey Loomis has talked about their bubble approach before and it seems that the lineman always win out when their is a grouping of players ranked similarly.

On another note, they will often take a player from that grouping that they don't think they can get a comparable player later in the draft. So if they only have 4 OTs ranked in their top 40, but 8 WRs, they will take the OT.


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Weekend Warrior79
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
Here's a troubling thought. What if they think those areas have been addressed?

WR immediately get better with MT coming back.
OT: What if the plan is to slide Ram to LT, and have Hurst/Young as RT
S: Between Maye & PJW, maybe they think it's addressed.

I 100% agree with you that they have not been addressed, but how many times do the fans perspective and the coach's perspective been completely misaligned.

Also would not be surprised to hear they have offers in place with players like Mathieu & Landry, but both want to keep working the market to see if they can get a better deal. And Saints are content that they can either address the positions in the draft and/or improve the offer after the draft


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Fun Bunch
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
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NFL football scouting is very hit or Miss. it’s not an exact science at all. Therefore, I do not support a BPA strategy.


You really suck on every board, its unreal


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mdomingue
LSU Fan
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
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They have not addressed WR, OT in any appreciable way, and still have needs at positions like Safety that were at least partially addressed.


Is it possible they have shadow agreements in place that they will execute after they get their compensatory pick?


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Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
I don’t ever feel like it is truly BPA

It’s BPA with position need and general positional scarcity in mind. It will be the same this year


saints5021
USA Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
IMO, Deuce was best player available, as we had absolutely no need for him at the time.


Lester Earl
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
That was a long time ago


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Chad504boy
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re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
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IMO, Deuce was best player available, as we had absolutely no need for him at the time.




You can certainly argue there wasn't a need but you can also argue the front office new ricky was a mental basket case and could have been prepping for the future without Ricky.


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tigernnola
LSU Fan
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3542 posts

re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
A recent article pointed out that ML looks for the BPA that fits the saints needs, not necessarily the BPA. I think they are right where they want to be. They can stay put & get a WR/OT or have enough to move up for a standout from their board slips a bit.


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littlefart
Member since Jan 2014
235 posts

re: First year in awhile Saints haven't set themselves up to go BPA
Saints have won more games than most organizations in the last 5 years, and had won the most over 2017-2019 because they take BPA and fill other needs adequately in FA/later rounds/UDFA.

Ruiz (so far) has been a big miss, but it was a need at the time for a guy that was supposed to go earlier


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