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re: Does "Rooney Rule" Apply...

Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Dumbest rule in all of sports.



it really is and is a complete insult IMO. This is 2022, not 1970. No one is not going to hire or interview a candidate for a job based upon their race.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3475 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:37 pm to
The Spirit behind the rule is two fold

1) It gives a Coach like Allen interview experience, so maybe next time if he does not get the job he is better prepared for the type of questions and what they are looking for.

2) It floats him name out there and either puts him on the radar or makes it understandable for the next team to bring him in. As in the Saints thought enough of him to give him a look.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10758 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:01 pm to
Rooney rule is so patronizing. I would be offended if I were a black coach. Oh, we know who we want but we have to interview you anyway so let's get this over with. Sit down.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:51 pm to
Affirmative action is institutionalized racism.
Posted by Gumbyxl
Gretna
Member since Apr 2004
794 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:07 pm to
Oh really. African Americans comprise over 65% of the NFL players yet less than 3% of upper management and you don’t see a need for the Rooney Rule? You are either stupid or dumb ( maybe both).
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:20 pm to
Both!
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17808 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:39 pm to
They will want to interview Aaron Glenn anyway.
Posted by jerryc436
Franklin
Member since Jan 2014
722 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 6:42 am to
Dennis Allen would be my 1st choice because of the continuity int the organization. Brian Flores, Eric Bienemy and Aaron Glenn would be high on my list but has nothing to do with race. I just want the best coach going forward.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25131 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 7:28 am to
quote:

really. African Americans comprise over 65% of the NFL players yet less than 3% of upper management and you don’t see a need for the Rooney Rule? You are either stupid or dumb ( maybe both).

Right, maybe we should force teams to draft white players at skill positions then?
Posted by Gumbyxl
Gretna
Member since Apr 2004
794 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 8:11 am to
Are you saying in summation that African Americans are worthy as players only but not as managers and administrations? Additionally, are you imputing that they la k the intellectual capacities to lead organizations? After all, over 60% of players in the league comprise of nonwhite ethnic groups. Your statement is illogical for a number of reasons.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
9084 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 8:14 am to
Yes, stupid racist rule. If everyone is on board with Dennis Allen just stepping right in how would you feel if you were a black coach called in to interview just so they can check the box. Would you even bother to fly in? On the other hand say Allen went to another team then yes go ahead an interview as many a necessary, including qualified black coaches.
Posted by Gumbyxl
Gretna
Member since Apr 2004
794 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 8:27 am to
The Rooney rule at least affords minority candidates to at least present their qualifications. This is something that was never done before.

It is apparent from your response and yourself entitlement that these interviews yield no value.

Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Dumbest rule in all of sports.


By far
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22286 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:13 am to
A couple of years ago there was a discussion about this very topic when a name recognition coach was interviewed and offered a position immediately. Apparently, there used to be an understanding that if you already have your guy in mind, it would be unnecessary as it would basically make a mockery of the process. But, I believe they changed that shortly after the above scenario because the league saw the benefit in at least having the minority coaches go through the process. Plus, it ensures other coaches get fair consideration (which isn't true if you already know who you're hiring).

In other words, they were tired of seeing he same old white guys getting the same jobs so they mandated that every HC & GM position must have at least 1 minority interviewed. They may have extended that to Coordinators and other executive positions, but not 100% on the mandate part for those positions. Although that would make more sense than HC & GM as the minority coaches will need the coordinator/executive experiences to even be considered for HC/GM
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22286 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:16 am to
I will say this, even if they are going with Allen they really should bring in Josh McCown. Not because he has any shot whatsoever, but so Houston will make him the HC. Then McCown may be able to get the GM to give us some BoB trade value
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:28 am to
quote:

It’s extremely racist. But yes they have to do it.


It's not racist--it's just outdated.

The initial implementation of it had merit---but it's no longer needed.

Similar to HBCUs---they were very necessary at one time. (I went to SU)
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 9:31 am
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
9084 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 10:06 am to
What if Allen was the guy but happened to be black; would they still have to go through the minority interviews?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48898 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:50 pm to
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would think it'd be pretty negligent if there wasn't more "black" candidates interviewed.


I feel like I often disagree with your takes. But I find it hilarious people are pouncing on you for this statement like they don't understand what you mean. You clearly state it in the next sentence.

quote:

Not bc they are black but there's a handful of qualified interesting guys that we should be doing diligence on. Flores being one.

Posted by lsujag
Member since Jan 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:08 pm to
It applies unless you do it as a coach in waiting.
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