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Does "Rooney Rule" Apply...
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:35 am
...if a successful HC chooses to step aside because "it is time" and the organization has already done their due diligence internally believing the best route is keeping as much stability/continuity as possible?
Seems like it would be silly in this instance that an organization be forced to consider a complete tear-down and rebuild. We've got one of the best organizations over the past 16 years and it's been carefully cultivated/developed, and a true WINNING CULTURE pervades where once a culture of failure, loss and cluelessness reigned.
I get the idea that sometimes it's ok to let it be just an interview opportunity to be open-minded about "unknown" minority candidates, but why does that always apply only to HCs? In theory, (if you feel like that kind of "affirmative action policy" is a good thing) shouldn't it apply to all coaching positions?
Anyway... If the Saints are actually REQUIRED to interview a black man as a "potential" HC even if they feel like the best way forward is Allen, for instance, wouldn't that just be borderline offensive/just "checking a box"? Kinda like all the June "Pride month" Rainbows all over retail everything -- if I were gay, I'd feel like they are just using "me" for profit...
Seems like it would be silly in this instance that an organization be forced to consider a complete tear-down and rebuild. We've got one of the best organizations over the past 16 years and it's been carefully cultivated/developed, and a true WINNING CULTURE pervades where once a culture of failure, loss and cluelessness reigned.
I get the idea that sometimes it's ok to let it be just an interview opportunity to be open-minded about "unknown" minority candidates, but why does that always apply only to HCs? In theory, (if you feel like that kind of "affirmative action policy" is a good thing) shouldn't it apply to all coaching positions?
Anyway... If the Saints are actually REQUIRED to interview a black man as a "potential" HC even if they feel like the best way forward is Allen, for instance, wouldn't that just be borderline offensive/just "checking a box"? Kinda like all the June "Pride month" Rainbows all over retail everything -- if I were gay, I'd feel like they are just using "me" for profit...
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:36 am to littlefart
Yes it applies which is why they are interviewing Glenn
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:37 am to littlefart
Yes
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:38 am to littlefart
It’s extremely racist. But yes they have to do it.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:41 am to littlefart
Well we're interviewing Aaron Glenn because he is a friend of the organization and to do him a favor, so I doubt it is insulting to him
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:42 am to LSUZombie
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Yes it applies which is why they are interviewing Glenn
I would think it'd be pretty negligent if there wasn't more "black" candidates interviewed. Not bc they are black but there's a handful of qualified interesting guys that we should be doing diligence on. Flores being one.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:52 am to Chad504boy
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Not bc they are black but there's a handful of qualified interesting guys that we should be doing diligence on.
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would think it'd be pretty negligent if there wasn't more "black" candidates interviewed.
Ok so which is it. Do you want more interviewed or not?
Race should play no part in it. You interview guys you think may be a good fit.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:53 am to TackySweater
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Do you want more interviewed or not?
pretty sure i was clear with what i said.
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Race should play no part in it. You interview guys you think may be a good fit.
cool. not sure why you took my comment as for some "i love the rooney rule" type post.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:55 am to LSUZombie
Does it apply for interviewing hipster McDaniel?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:56 am to littlefart
They just have to interview. Which they will regardless of Rooney rule. Lots of up and coming black coaches regardless of their race.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:57 am to littlefart
Dumbest rule in all of sports.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:26 am to Chad504boy
Glenn is considered a rising star by many in the NFL and Mike D said he will definitely be a HC soon. I don't think this is a formality, though I still think DA gets it.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:44 pm to littlefart
ALWAYS applies
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:46 pm to littlefart
quote:I know it's semantics but we don't have to consider that, we just have to interview the guy. But yea, that speaks to your point.
Seems like it would be silly in this instance that an organization be forced to consider a complete tear-down and rebuild
quote:I also want to say all of this is true. You have situations where you basically have to interview a guy you know you're not interested it. But while it's mostly a waste of time, there is value to it. That guy is getting valuable interview experience, and you're getting information on that guy which could help you down the road. Maybe you really like him and 1 year down the road can bring him on as a coordinator, or 3 years down the road you got the inside edge on bringing him in as HC. But overall, yea it's a shitty situation .
Anyway... If the Saints are actually REQUIRED to interview a black man as a "potential" HC even if they feel like the best way forward is Allen, for instance, wouldn't that just be borderline offensive/just "checking a box"? Kinda like all the June "Pride month" Rainbows all over retail everything -- if I were gay, I'd feel like they are just using "me" for profit...
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:46 pm to TackySweater
Because you said it’s negligent to not interview more black candidates.
Why not just say it’s negligent to not interview the best and most interesting potential candidates?
Why not just say it’s negligent to not interview the best and most interesting potential candidates?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:59 pm to TackySweater
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Why not just say it’s negligent to not interview the best and most interesting potential candidates?
because doing this, you will come across some black ones. duh. why are your panties in such a wad?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:04 pm to littlefart
The point is valid and highlights how fricking stupid it is that it even exists.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:14 pm to littlefart
Give Glenn an apple and a cookie and call it an interview.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:17 pm to littlefart
I don't think it applies if you promote from within. That being said with the woke NFL and media they are crazy not to have a sit down at least just to say they did interview a minority.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:19 pm to Klingler7
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Give Glenn an apple and a cookie and call it an interview.
No, you don't insult the man. Hasn't he interviewed for HC jobs before? He might be a good candidate, I know he is a good DB coach.
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