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re: Does Mickey deserve any credit for where we are headed?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:46 pm to SaintTigerPel
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:46 pm to SaintTigerPel
Resigned Juwan and Chase.
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:52 pm to chalmationnation
Of course he does, Mickey hired Sean Payton and signed Drew Brees, drafted Reggie Bush, Cam Jordan and Marcus Colston etc. Won the Superbowl. Also some bad, hired Dennis Allen as head coach and drafted stephon Anthony and penning in the first round. Maybe he's righted the ship with KM and Shough. Time will tell but watching these young players preform is encouraging
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:10 pm to Chad504boy
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On here? Lmao!
This board & Pels Talk gonna be crazy if both teams he manages for Gayle keep playing well... unable to give Mickey credit after years of calling for his head
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:30 pm to chalmationnation
In real life?
Yes
By people who matter?
Yes
On a message board?
Probably not
Yes
By people who matter?
Yes
On a message board?
Probably not
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:31 pm to rt3
He manages nothing of pelicans
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:43 pm to chalmationnation
I’m quoting myself here cause I’m right about this and you guys should get over yourselves and admit it.
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Mickey Loomis is not now (nor has he ever been) the guy selecting rosters for the Saints. That complaint is ignorant. What has he actually done as GM of the Saints? 1. He is one of the early adapters of cap manipulation. Nobody in the NFL was as good as the Saints at being over the cap by 80 million dollars and still keeping players. 2. He got there to extend the window for Brees to win another Super Bowl. Everyone knew the game plan and everyone knew what would happen when it was over. And he almost succeeded if not for the NFL opting to put its new LA team in the Super Bowl instead. 3. He presided over the Saints going from laughingstock to respectable player on a yearly basis. The hate is weird. Are there better GMs? I’m sure. Are there worse? Ask Cleveland fans. The Panthers traded their future for a guy who’s 5’9” and throws like a girl. Get a grip, Twitter. I mean, Saints Talk.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:15 pm to chalmationnation
Mickey was forced to fire DA just one year ago. Dude is a menace.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:27 pm to chalmationnation
He get all the blame so why doesn't he deserve credit? The answer is yes.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:07 pm to LSUpelsSaints
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I’d have to imagine it was Moore who mostly had the hand in picking Shough.
Yep, Loomis isn’t really out there hand picking players. If you want to give him credit, give it to him for not signing players to ridiculous contracts. But again, that’s a directive coming down from above Loomis’s head.
There is credit that needs to be given in this organization, but Loomis isn’t at the top of that list.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:13 pm to chalmationnation
I look at him as the CKM hire, not necessarily draft picks. I think CKM had more to do with the draft, along with scouting.
But I also look at him as the source for contract issues.
But I also look at him as the source for contract issues.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:37 pm to chalmationnation
If he gets the blame, he gets the credit but I still think that others are calling the football shots. Moore probably picked the QB. .
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:03 am
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:45 pm to chalmationnation
I think he deserves credit for Moore, Staley, Chase Young.
I think most of the draft class is thanks to Ireland and the coaching staff. There’s a reason why good teams always remain good. The coaches have way more say so in the process (like Payton) and it usually leads to good results when you have good coaches and not so good results when you have bad ones (DA)
I think most of the draft class is thanks to Ireland and the coaching staff. There’s a reason why good teams always remain good. The coaches have way more say so in the process (like Payton) and it usually leads to good results when you have good coaches and not so good results when you have bad ones (DA)
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:48 pm to chalmationnation
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cornerstone pieces seem to be in place with Coach, QB, and Kicker
You lost me on a cornerstone piece being a kicker.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:46 am to LSUgrad88
This board’s opinion of Loomis changes with the scoreboard from week to week. Everyone wanted him gone a few weeks ago. Now our rookie QB gets in and plays well and Loomising is a thing again.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:15 am to PNW_TigerSaint
This team still needs to be rebuilt. It's a long way away,
This draft class looks pretty good. And, everyone with a brain thinks Shough is worth seeing if he can be the franchise guy.
That's a huge accomplishment.
But, it's going to take a couple more if this franchise is going to turn it around.
This draft class looks pretty good. And, everyone with a brain thinks Shough is worth seeing if he can be the franchise guy.
That's a huge accomplishment.
But, it's going to take a couple more if this franchise is going to turn it around.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:43 am to chalmationnation
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Does Mickey deserve any credit for where we are headed?
Well, it's kind of retarded to blame him for all the bad stuff and ignore him in all the good stuff.
90% of Saints talk is retarded so no he wont get any credit here.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:01 am to chalmationnation
This roster is still just so bad and you've wasted season after season post-Brees to get to this point.
Hitting on Shough would be huge but the roster is void of young talent.
Hitting on Shough would be huge but the roster is void of young talent.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:19 am to Lester Earl
That seems like a preseason take, Lester.
I think there is a lack of depth but there is young talent on the roster. Just in this draft alone you are getting major contributions from Shough, Banks, Riley, Sanker, and Neal. Olave is still on his first contract and in his prime years. Chase Young, Kool-Aid, Howden, and Bresee on defense in last few drafts/FA. We need to fill holes but there is the framework to build.
I think there is a lack of depth but there is young talent on the roster. Just in this draft alone you are getting major contributions from Shough, Banks, Riley, Sanker, and Neal. Olave is still on his first contract and in his prime years. Chase Young, Kool-Aid, Howden, and Bresee on defense in last few drafts/FA. We need to fill holes but there is the framework to build.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:38 am to NIH
Most of those guys are ancillary players at best.
Defensively, Davis and Cam Jordan are holding the defense together from being an absolute shite show. Staley had done really well with what he has but you need some top end talent and the Saints have none.
Kelvin Banks looks promising but Fuaga has regressed. The 2024 draft looks bad, like most of the drafts in the 2020’s.
They botched the best draft pick in recent years with Zack Baun, which should be a fireable offense in itself.
Defensively, Davis and Cam Jordan are holding the defense together from being an absolute shite show. Staley had done really well with what he has but you need some top end talent and the Saints have none.
Kelvin Banks looks promising but Fuaga has regressed. The 2024 draft looks bad, like most of the drafts in the 2020’s.
They botched the best draft pick in recent years with Zack Baun, which should be a fireable offense in itself.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:43 am to Lester Earl
You need ancillary players to win games. I’d agree we need to draft some more playmakers. I think Chase Young, Kool-Aid, and Riley have the potential to be more than ancillary. I’d argue Young is a playmaker right now. He’s closed two games with sacks and would be on pace for 11+ if he hadn’t been hurt.
I think with more firepower at WR/TE/RB and at pass rush / secondary this is an 8-9 win team next year, maybe better if Shough and the other guys take another leap.
I think with more firepower at WR/TE/RB and at pass rush / secondary this is an 8-9 win team next year, maybe better if Shough and the other guys take another leap.
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