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Dallas can give us Parsons and a 2nd right now for Sean
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:56 am
Fair trade I think 

Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:57 am to 50_Tiger
They're working on getting us a top 10 pick for Sean now that dak is hurt
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:58 am to msstate7
Id rather Parsons which is a guarantee and fits an immediate need 

Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:01 am to 50_Tiger
They won't do that though.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:03 am to msstate7
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They won't do that though.
Well I guess they can see him in two years

Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:06 am to 50_Tiger
With the way Loomis trades, we'll probably give them our 2nd and get back a 4th.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:38 am to 50_Tiger
That would be nice but I doubt they give him up.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:46 am to 50_Tiger
I don't think we will get as much for CSP as people think.
Most coach trade situations are when the Coach is "still on the team", aka he was the HC that year, season ends, they trade him.
I can't think of many situations where he was off the team for at least a year.
People expecting multiple 1sts will be disappointed.
Most coach trade situations are when the Coach is "still on the team", aka he was the HC that year, season ends, they trade him.
I can't think of many situations where he was off the team for at least a year.
People expecting multiple 1sts will be disappointed.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:17 am to Fun Bunch
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can't think of many situations where he was off the team for at least a year.
Does that matter tho bunch
This is what my gut is telling
-Saints aren’t being hamstrung & still having to pay him. He’s “retired”. They aren’t eating money. They have all the leverage
- how comfortable is Payton? Is he pushing to get back into coaching, or will he just sit back & let the teams handle it, with his soft, cush , media job to fall back on
- so it comes down to Dallas’ desperation, coming up with a compensation package of the saints liking, and also very likely giving Payton a new deal making him the highest paid coach in the league. And who else gets involved? Perhaps the Jets, the bengals, or commanders. Whomever. Could push the price up
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:21 am to Lester Earl
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Does that matter tho bunch
It could. You make some fair points, but there's a psychological aspect here. The Saints have a new coach already, the team isn't getting their coach stolen. Its a year removed, they have a new HC, they've presumably played a full season, etc.
That's a totally different situation than getting your current coach poached.
Dallas is going to come with some level of desperation, but I don't think its a multiple 1sts type of situation.
One other factor here is: CSP will almost certainly want full control but will need to bring a GM type with him, so he will want to try and take Khai Hartley or Jeff Ireland one would think...
And the Saints will have to factor that in to discussions.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:46 am to Fun Bunch
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but there's a psychological aspect here. The Saints have a new coach already, the team isn't getting their coach stolen. Its a year removed, they have a new HC, they've presumably played a full season, etc.
Business is business though. As long as they do not try & be lovey dovey and appease Payton, you are looking at at least one 1st rd pick and multiple other top 100(maybe another 1st) picks spread out over 2-3 drafts, and potentially cash.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:51 am to Lester Earl
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you are looking at at least one 1st rd pick and multiple other top 100(maybe another 1st) picks spread out over 2-3 drafts, and potentially cash.
I wish I could take a prop bet on this, Im with Bunchie
this will be a PR thank you for everything coach payton deal, lucky LUCKY if you get 2 - 2nds.
A first, or a star player aint happening..but maybe cash with the pick (singular) IMHO
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:55 am to Lester Earl
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Business is business though. As long as they do not try & be lovey dovey and appease Payton
Loomis has done kinda poorly in trades lately value wise. Definitely hasn't gotten the better of anyone a whole lot.
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you are looking at at least one 1st rd pick and multiple other top 100(maybe another 1st) picks spread out over 2-3 drafts, and potentially cash.
This is certainly possible.
As I said, I think the Saints will look at it as a package deal because Sean will certainly want to steal someone like Hartley or Ireland, and possibly a staff member or two, So they will factor that in, even if its not technically a part of the trade.
I'm just not counting on it. I hope its the case.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:59 am to Lester Earl
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. And who else gets involved? Perhaps the Jets, the bengals, or commanders. Whomever. Could push the price up
If you wish for a Kings haul this is how you get it. Don't know if it will happen but a bidding war with other teams and frikken Jerry would net us major bank

Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:00 am to DomincDecoco
Conversation starts with one 1st. Then you fan it out from there:
Guy is under contract like any other asset. There is no charity involved, especially considering the premeditation of it all.
Guy is under contract like any other asset. There is no charity involved, especially considering the premeditation of it all.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:15 am to Lester Earl
One thing we have to watch is if the Chargers fizzle out and don't meet expectations.
I could see CSP being VERY intrigued by already having a young QB that could be elite, and a shitload of other talent on that team, in the 2nd largest market in the US.
If they underachieve in a pretty tough division, I could see CSP MUCH preferring that to Dallas and dealing with Jerrah, and the Saints might prefer him in the AFC.
Would he be interested in Arizona? I'm not sure he would want to coach Kyler.
I could see CSP being VERY intrigued by already having a young QB that could be elite, and a shitload of other talent on that team, in the 2nd largest market in the US.
If they underachieve in a pretty tough division, I could see CSP MUCH preferring that to Dallas and dealing with Jerrah, and the Saints might prefer him in the AFC.
Would he be interested in Arizona? I'm not sure he would want to coach Kyler.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:18 am to 50_Tiger
quote:Totally fair. Is there a petition I can sign to help expedite this process?
Dallas can give us Parsons and a 2nd right now for Sean
Fair trade I think
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:21 am to 50_Tiger
Yall really think Loomis is going to get something for him? That's a joke
Not what he is worth but the fact that Loomis will hold out. He may holdout for 2 magic beans instead of 1
Not what he is worth but the fact that Loomis will hold out. He may holdout for 2 magic beans instead of 1
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:22 am to Fun Bunch
Yeah I don’t think we are going to get multiple firsts. If we got a first I’d be happy. A lot of our fans think we should get 5 firsts when we have almost no leverage.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:27 am to tigersquad89
Mmmmmm we have a good bit. We don't need a coach. We are 1-0 your team is 0-1
But really the biggest leverage we have is do you want to get in a bidding war with several other billionaires?

But really the biggest leverage we have is do you want to get in a bidding war with several other billionaires?
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