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re: Connections to Marlon Humphrey continue
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:18 am to Rand AlThor
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:18 am to Rand AlThor
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:21 am to Blackfield
Lol yeah, Barron has found a nice role in St. Louis as a hybrid S/LB.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:40 am to Rand AlThor
Being that no one here wants him, he'll probably be a stud.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 11:44 am to Rand AlThor
FRICK THIS GAY EARTH
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:03 pm to FitzBlitz52
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Mark Barron is a bust
Also, Kareem Jackson is a very good DB in Houston.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:06 pm to Muriel
The correlation that X position for X school is a precursor to success or failure is always funny
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:08 pm to GynoSandberg
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The correlation that X position for X school is a precursor to success or failure is always funny
I agree. If I see one more person tell me that Duke Riley is a 2nd rounder because "have you seen Kwon and Debo...?" ....
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:12 pm to Rand AlThor
That would be pretty bad pick at that position, IMO. He has great physical attributes but at #11? If guys like Barnett are still there I don't see how you can pass them for a guy like Humphrey. He seems more like a later in the 1st pick to me. Something like 15-25. I just think the pass rushers they have graded in top 10 are a fairly big gap over a guy like this especially when you consider value. Elite pass rushers also devour your cap so you need to get them cheaper through the draft. You could have a secondary full of guys like Peterson or Sherman and they'd still look average if a QB has all day to pass.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:15 pm to GynoSandberg
Well, I've seen it raised in recent years from scouts as to whether Alabama players are worth the high picks they've been going. Some were saying that the vast majority of Bama players don't have much ceiling to grow in the NFL due to Saban getting the most out of them in college. I can certainly believe that. They have some damn good players from there in NFL but also a lot of major busts. I think that's a fair criticism and something to be cautious about when it comes to that school. Guys like Lacy said it best about how Saban was disciplinary and had a strict schedule he made all his players follow. He said once he got to the NFL they didn't do that which allows players to get lazy. I found that interesting and probably why his fat arse got a weight clause in his contract with Seattle. Went from Beast Mode to Feast Mode with Lacy.
Maybe I'm overthinking this a bit but is there any major name Bama has recently in the NFL that's a great DB? I'm sure they have someone I just can't think of any right now. Kinda odd though when you consider Bama is a school that dishes out a lot of high DB picks just like LSU in SEC. You could say the systems they come from definitely have some correlation to their success in the NFL. LSU had plenty of players that went on to the NFL that had very high ceiling because let's face it, Les Miles definitely didn't get the most out of the talent he had.
But anyways, I just don't like this pick at that position but mainly because I think you have much better value ahead of him. It really just depends on how the draft goes.
Maybe I'm overthinking this a bit but is there any major name Bama has recently in the NFL that's a great DB? I'm sure they have someone I just can't think of any right now. Kinda odd though when you consider Bama is a school that dishes out a lot of high DB picks just like LSU in SEC. You could say the systems they come from definitely have some correlation to their success in the NFL. LSU had plenty of players that went on to the NFL that had very high ceiling because let's face it, Les Miles definitely didn't get the most out of the talent he had.
But anyways, I just don't like this pick at that position but mainly because I think you have much better value ahead of him. It really just depends on how the draft goes.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:50 pm to FitzBlitz52
Milner and Arenas are probably the only "busts" from the Saban era. HaHa Clinton Dix and Landon Collins are two of the best safeties in the league. Collins was a first team all pro and HCD a second team all pro. Barron is pioneering a hybrid position, Kirkpatrick just got a new deal in cincy, Jackson has been a good corner for a while in Houston. Jury is still out on Cyrus Jones. I don't know where y'all come up with some of this shite.
Humphrey is boom or bust. His success depends entirely on improving his ability to locate the ball and make a play on 50/50 throws. 11 is too high for a boom or bust prospect
Humphrey is boom or bust. His success depends entirely on improving his ability to locate the ball and make a play on 50/50 throws. 11 is too high for a boom or bust prospect
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:53 pm to deuce985
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hey have some damn good players from there in NFL but also a lot of major busts. I
That's how averages work. When you produce a lot of players some are going to bust. Would you recommend avoiding LSU players because Tyson Jackson, Jamarcus Russell, Glen Dorsey, and Buster Davis were all busts?
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Maybe I'm overthinking this a bit but is there any major name Bama has recently in the NFL that's a great DB?
Besides the two all pros last season, I guess there isn't another "great" one. Fair point
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:54 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Besides the two all pros last season, I guess there isn't another "great" one. Fair point
I don't like Humphrey but this was funny.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:55 pm to LSUZombie
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Being that no one here wants him, he'll probably be a stud.
I could see him struggling first year or two before finally hitting stride but I still really, really don't want him
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:58 pm to deuce985
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Maybe I'm overthinking this a bit but is there any major name Bama has recently in the NFL that's a great DB?
Really??? Landon Collins was a 1st team All-Pro, Pro Bowler, NFC DPOY and finished 3rd in NFL DPOY voting. Ha Ha was was a 2nd team All-Pro and Pro Bowler.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 1:07 pm to 1BamaRTR
Here's some film on Humphrey. Obviously a highlight tape so this is only good for evaluating his strengths. There's even a few plays in here where he overcomes his 50/50 ball demons, which imo is what his NFL career hinges on. One thing the highlights aren't lying about is that Humphrey is a bad dude, always the hammer never the nail. Actual tape starts 45 seconds in
LINK
LINK
Posted on 4/25/17 at 2:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
That's why I asked I couldn't remember who but I knew they had at least a few. Collins struggled his rookie year but since has been one reason that defense has seen a resurgence.
Anyways, I still don't think Humphrey is a good pick at #11. I watch Bama just about every weekend during SEC season and I've seen far better DBs come out under Saban's era. Like I said, I don't think he's a good value pick at 11. Seems more like a guy you'd take a chance on in the later part of the 1st. If he was somehow there at #32 I'd definitely take a chance on him. Doubtful but that would be great value you can't pass up. One thing I always liked about him though is how tough he is. He's not afraid to stick his nose in run support and put a RB in the dirt.
Anyways, I still don't think Humphrey is a good pick at #11. I watch Bama just about every weekend during SEC season and I've seen far better DBs come out under Saban's era. Like I said, I don't think he's a good value pick at 11. Seems more like a guy you'd take a chance on in the later part of the 1st. If he was somehow there at #32 I'd definitely take a chance on him. Doubtful but that would be great value you can't pass up. One thing I always liked about him though is how tough he is. He's not afraid to stick his nose in run support and put a RB in the dirt.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 2:29 pm to GynoSandberg
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The correlation that X position for X school is a precursor to success or failure is always funny
This is true, but this should strictly be about MH.
And even Bama fans think 11 would be dumb as frick. I just don't see it with this guy and I've seen him play quite a bit.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 2:41 pm to Fun Bunch
Bunch after reading this forum for years do you really take stock in what Saints, Pels, LSU, Bama, tOSU fans etc say about their guys? Talk about being too emotionally invested, for better or worse. I like unbiased analysis
If one were to say I don't want MH bc he didn't fit our scheme, then id say great, I respect that. He doesn't track the deep ball well, ok, understandable
If one were to say I don't want MH bc he didn't fit our scheme, then id say great, I respect that. He doesn't track the deep ball well, ok, understandable
Posted on 4/25/17 at 2:53 pm to GynoSandberg
I just don't see how the Saints can pass up Marshon Lattimore for Marlon Humphrey if Lattimore is there.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 2:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
Me either
Would only consider him at 32
Would only consider him at 32
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