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re: Congrats Loomis

Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15540 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:48 am to
Muh tear it down people don’t care about value, they just want change for change’s sake

Even if that means totally destroying our reputation with veterans and ruining our chances to sign future FA’s like in the early 00’s.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421994 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:50 am to
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Even if that means totally destroying our reputation with veterans and ruining our chances to sign future FA’s like in the early 00’s.

The Saints are in the NFL, not the NBA

Also, title are won in the draft and trades, not free agency. Free agency should be used to re-sign the talent acquired in the draft and via trades.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16330 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16330 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:17 am to
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Option bonus bro


Explain to me what you think this means to our cap

I'm not sure that brings the savings a lot of people that refer to it think it will. Sure, it allows the team to push a lot of his money to another team while giving the team temporary cap relief, but unless the new team can take the signing bonus & other restructured funds I don't see how it really helps that much.

As I understand it, trading Latt between 6/01 and 8/29 drops his cap hit for 2024 from $14.6M to $10.6M. His 2025 cap hit drops from $31.4M to $20.6M.

Plus, because you need a team to take a large salary from a disgruntled player, you lose some leverage for a high value pick. That pick won't be until 2025 at the earliest, and if you need the team to take more cap hit (if the league allows) it'll be an even lower draft pick.
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
2529 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:28 am to
This is a discussion board. What else is there to talk about? Dennis Allen’s brilliant coaching philosophies? Gail Benson’s savvy ownership moves?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10777 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:46 am to
How bout the draft? How bout limit cap talk to the other threads already here on the site? The site is basically unreadable know bc every thread is a repeat of the last one
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59091 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:56 am to
The draft is 2 months away, the cap is a big topic now because it’s the news now, the new league year, new cap figures were announced and the most recent moves are all cap related. Whether you like it or not the Saints strategy is centered around structuring the restructuring contracts to comply with the cap so it always be an important factor and topic of discussion
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22656 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:58 am to
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This is a discussion board. What else is there to talk about? Dennis Allen’s brilliant coaching philosophies? Gail Benson’s savvy ownership moves?




I agree. There are stupid threads to be made, but I'm all about shitting on the salary cap manipulation and/or praising it. Whichever fits my agenda at the time.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10777 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:01 am to
Cool, but no matter how many times we go round and round on the subject, the saints strategy isn't changing. Perhaps spamming the saints with emails or posts on X is a better strategy to get change. You guys telling us the same thing 24/7 is just annoying
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22656 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:07 am to
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Cool, but no matter how many times we go round and round on the subject, the saints strategy isn't changing.


We know.

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ou guys telling us the same thing 24/7 is just annoying


Not for us.


I mean, crazy concept, but you could just not participate in said thread and start your own, way more interesting topic.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:11 am to
Loomis Loomising
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59091 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:16 am to
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You guys telling us the same thing 24/7 is just annoying


See comment about this being a discussion board. Feel free to not read or comment on subjects you find tired or uninteresting
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166148 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:22 am to
Should Ryan Ramczyk be a designated June 1st cut for us at this time? He's got a 3/16 bonus tied to him right now. He saves a ton of money by an outright june 1st cut. He ain't worth it no more.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10898 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:23 am to
I feel sorry for you guys families. You are obviously difficult people to be around for any length of time.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64285 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:26 am to
FA starts March 11. More football talk but there will be a lot of "too bad we couldn't afford soandso" so it's not going to stop anytime soon.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29927 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:41 am to
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Congrats Loomis


the salary cap is a myth

its just like that word recession

neither of them is real

when the rules defining them are changed faster than you can keep up with, its all just a talking point
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59091 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:47 am to
Then why do the Saints restructure contracts every year to get under the cap? What is the point of redoing Carr’s deal, tying yourself to him for more years?
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64147 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:48 am to
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msstate7


We get it dude. You’re better than all the complainers and like to let us all know about it. Major props for your rational, level headed acceptance of the current front office shortcomings. If only the saints had an entire legion of A+ fans like you we’d be in a much better place as an organization.

The reality is we haven’t drafted particularly well over the last few years, we’re always treading water with the cap, and we have an aging roster without a lot of opportunity to turn over unless we truly crush the draft. Pair that with one of the most uninspiring head coaches in the league and a made man at GM regardless of performance.

The current model isn’t exactly amazing and we’re right at the point of the offseason where the primary topic of discussion is finances and cap room. It’s not going to be sunshine and rainbows given the current situation.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:48 am to
if the cap isn't real and we're able to operate freely why were we forced to let guys like hendrickson walk?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64147 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:53 am to
Hendrickson and Williams would’ve been massive building blocks going into their prime.
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