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re: Carolina Panthers receive permission to interview CSP.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:07 pm to TackySweater
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:07 pm to TackySweater
quote:And this is people's biggest mistake. The most attractive package to the Saints, and most attractive package to Payton have nothing to do with each other.
Meanwhile all of these teams that are bidding don’t want to risk the chance of having him go somewhere else, so they are trying to make the most attractive package to the saints as possible.
It’s not a “ok, our offer isn’t great to the saints so we can just wait till next year” it’s a “shite if we don’t make the best package for the saints, he’s going somewhere else now”
Its not possible to have a trade package bidding war if the person in the trade couldn't care less about who offers the best deal.
And he's "boo hoo'd" and "best friended" Mickey enough through the media since he quit on him that he's got Mickey even saying he won't stop him from coaching next year, if Payton wants to.
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:09 pm to eyeran
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And this is people's biggest mistake. The most attractive package to the Saints, and most attractive package to Payton have nothing to do with each other.
Well a big no f@cking duh!
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Its not possible to have a trade package bidding war if the person in the trade couldn't care less about who offers the best deal.
No f@cking duh again.
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And he's "boo hoo'd" and "best friended" Mickey enough through the media since he quit on him that he's got Mickey even saying he won't stop him from coaching next year, if Payton wants to.
WTF is this?
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:14 pm to Fun Bunch
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Assuming they are the team chosen.
They aren’t bidding against the other teams.
Of course they’re bidding against each other. Obviously not the way you think
Every new team that enters the chat, with a higher 1RD pick or an excess of draft capital, allows us to leverage the next team just a little more. And ultimately it may not be CSP’s choice, but at this point that does not matter. Establish the best package possible and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:20 pm to eyeran
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And this is people's biggest mistake. The most attractive package to the Saints, and most attractive package to Payton have nothing to do with each other. Its not possible to have a trade package bidding war if the person in the trade couldn't care less about who offers the best deal.
Perfectly said. It’s not a bidding war. Now I do think there will be general guidelines agreed to regarding compensation. Maybe based off of the draft pick value points charts or something like that. But I think they’ll be some leeway given.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:26 pm to goatmilker
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Oh I love debate. Please.
Even if Sean waits 5 years the Saints will still be owed compensation ala Mike Holmgren.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:26 pm to eyeran
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The most attractive package to the Saints, and most attractive package to Payton have nothing to do with each other.
Bidding teams don’t know that. But they do know there are multiple teams out there trying to get him NOW with the idea of, “shite if we don’t get him now, another team will” so more teams = equal higher bids.
If there was only one team in the running, they could just wait and say “ok we will get him when he can walk”
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:35 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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Even if Sean waits 5 years the Saints will still be owed compensation ala Mike Holmgren.
In which case we would get a 7th at best.
Trade this quitter now and get max value. Ready for him to fall on his face without a HOF QB on his side.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:43 pm to LSUZombie
It would go to arbitration. Saints would argue they were owed 3 years of Sean’s services before he “retired.” It’s a pointless exercise considering he will get traded soon.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:22 pm to eyeran
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The most attractive package to the Saints, and most attractive package to Payton have nothing to do with each other.
At some point they will have to meet. The saints have the best leverage
Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:10 pm to Fun Bunch
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You have to think the asking price is totally outrageous, but if they are interviewing it’s agreed to
It’s more likely the asking price is low to reasonable, after all every team that has asked has moved forward with interviewing Payton.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 8:35 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Posted on 1/15/23 at 8:47 pm to GynoSandberg
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Every new team that enters the chat, with a higher 1RD pick or an excess of draft capital, allows us to leverage the next team just a little more. And ultimately it may not be CSP’s choice, but at this point that does not matter. Establish the best package possible and let the chips fall where they may.
Not at all. Because this only benefits the first team to enter the fold. The Saints can’t go back and say “we have better offers now up it” if they’ve already agreed to compensation.
The bids are all made independent of each other.
The only package the teams have to make the BEST is the one do Payton. Not the saints.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:08 pm to eyeran
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The decision is Payton's to make. So teams aren't bidding against each other's trade offers. They're bidding against each other's contract offers.
What are you talking about? Just like the the Watson situation, we don’t allow them to talk to Payton unless parameters of compensation is agreed upon first. They can’t ‘talk’ to him unless we allow it first. He decides where he wants to go but the compensation shoujd be decided upon before hand.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:12 pm to Townedrunkard
And again they aren’t bidding against each other. They make an offer independent of what other teams are offering.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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And again they aren’t bidding against each other. They make an offer independent of what other teams are offering.
If Carolina wants to talk to him, they will have to give up double what other teams give. If they balk, we decline to let them talk. Simple as that.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:24 pm to Townedrunkard
Obviously some teams will have to pay more because of who they are. Carolina would need to pay the most.
Then Arizona being an NFC team.
Then Arizona being an NFC team.
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