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Carolina Panthers receive permission to interview CSP.

Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:36 pm
Schefty:

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Sources: The Carolina Panthers are the latest entrant into the Sean Payton Sweepstakes, receiving permission today to interview the former head coach of their NFC South rival. Carolina, Arizona, Denver and Houston are now all interested in hiring Payton.

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Some of the NFL’s highest-profile coaching deals - Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick - also involved division rivals. If the Panthers were able to hire Payton, he would be the newest entrant to join the list of coaches making an intra-division jump to spice up a rivalry.


You have to think the asking price is totally outrageous, but if they are interviewing it’s agreed to

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:37 pm to
Three firsts and three seconds
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131912 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:39 pm to
At least. If he’s going to a division rival I’d say it’s at least double what, say, the Chargers would need to pay.
Posted by blafayette
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
743 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:49 pm to
Would Panthers be stupid enough to give up 4 1st rounders. They offered 3 1st’s and more picks for Deshaun. Super Bowl coach should be worth more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 1:58 pm to
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. Super Bowl coach should be worth more.

No
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
CSP doing us a favor and going to tank the Panthers for us
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22241 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:08 pm to
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Would Panthers be stupid enough to give up 4 1st rounders. They offered 3 1st’s and more picks for Deshaun. Super Bowl coach should be worth more.

I'm as big a homer as anyone else, but if this is really the type of compensation fans are expecting, Mickey Loomis better spend the offseason in a bunker.

Ultimately, all this does is run up Payton's bank account. He's now got, by a wide margin, the two richest owners in the league opening their checkbooks.

The decision is Payton's to make. So teams aren't bidding against each other's trade offers. They're bidding against each other's contract offers.

Its a brilliant financial move for Payton.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:24 pm to
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The decision is Payton's to make


It’s not
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:27 pm to
Huh. It is.

How many teams are in on him is irrelevant to us.

He chooses the team. It’s up to us to try and get max compensation from that 1 team.

It’s not 6 teams bidding against each other.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74481 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:02 pm to
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How many teams are in on him is irrelevant to us


Stupid. As long as Payton is granting interviews to multiple teams, it matters

You think the compensation is the same if only one team wanted Payton? No. Regardless if he’s “choosing” his next stop, it still matters
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:08 pm to
3 firsts and 3 seconds and they have to take Peat off our hands!!!!!??
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:10 pm to
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CSP doing us a favor and going to tank the Panthers for us


If they give up too much draft capital, they'll guarantee high picks. It'll be like the Herschel Walker trads.

They don't have great players they could trade to replenish the picks.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:16 pm to
I’m with Sandy. Having multiple teams interested definitely matters to Payton & negotiating a new contract.

As for the Saints, this is kind of uncharted waters. To basically have a coach go through a public courtship like this.


I do think there is a possibility where Payton feels comfortable going to two teams, and it could be up to the Saints to decide based on compensation.

Payton has most of the leverage but I don’t think the Saints are sitting completely idle either.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:18 pm to
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He chooses the team. It’s up to us to try and get max compensation from that 1 team.


Or we can just say “frick you” we don’t want you going to that team
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131912 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 3:58 pm to
We could. The leverage doesn’t change.

Then the team and Payton both say “ok” and CSP waits until next year when we have even less leverage.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131912 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Stupid. As long as Payton is granting interviews to multiple teams, it matters


It only matters to Payton and how much money he can get.

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You think the compensation is the same if only one team


It IS only one team. The team he chooses.

This isn’t hard. This is basic stuff.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48188 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Then the team and Payton both say “ok” and CSP waits until next year when we have even less leverage.


Oh well. If someone doesnt want to pay according to past deals then they can wait two years.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:01 pm to
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The leverage doesn’t change.


Wut lol

If he is fine going to one of two teams in the bidding, and the saints prefer one team over the other, then yes the leverage the saints have definitely changes in their favor.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131912 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:05 pm to
But of course that isn’t what’s going to happen.

He’s going to choose to go with 1 team. And that’s it. We “can’t” trade him to a team he doesn’t want to go to. (We can but they would just acquire his rights he doesn’t have to coach for them).

This is not much different than the AD to the Lakers situation. But the Lakers were desperate and David Griffin anally raped them. Let’s hope Loomis can do the same to whatever team Payton chooses.

Why is this so hard for people to understand
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:07 pm to
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of course that isn’t what’s going to happen


Didn’t realize you were his agent. My bad.
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