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Cardelle Hayes manslaughter conviction thrown out

Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:12 pm
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The man convicted of manslaughter for killing New Orleans Saints great Will Smith in 2016 is no longer a convicted killer.

Cardell Hayes was charged with second-degree murder after shooting Smith during an altercation that followed a traffic incident in the Lower Garden District. But an Orleans Parish jury ended up convicting Hayes of a lesser crime, manslaughter, on a split 10-2 vote.

Since then, the U.S. Supreme Court found Louisiana’s non-unanimous jury verdicts unconstitutional in the Ramos v. Louisiana case, allowing all convictions still on appeal to get a new review in light of Ramos. The high court looked at Hayes’ case Monday morning and vacated the conviction, sending the case back to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeal in New Orleans for review.

The 4th Circuit is expected to grant a new trial, as appellate courts have in several other split-jury cases. In July, Ronald Gasser, who also killed a football star, former NFL running back Joe McKnight, after a road rage incident in Jefferson Parish, was already granted a new trial by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeal in Gretna.

It will be up to Orleans Parish District Attorney Jason Williams, who is just being sworn in Monday, whether to pursue a new case against Hayes. Because the jury convicted Hayes on a “responsive verdict,” reducing the charge from second-degree murder to manslaughter, Hayes’ appellate attorney Eric Santana says Hayes could only be charged with manslaughter the second time around.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71744 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:14 pm to
Not really interested in celebrating or condemning this decision

Just a really sad situation that both guys contributed too.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18018 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:17 pm to
I have no idea whether it was self defense or not. Hopefully the courts are getting it right. Bad situation all the way around.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43559 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:17 pm to
i wonder if payton is gonna pull out all the stops to try and get this dude back in jail?
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4394 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:49 pm to
I remember quickly just labeling him guilty, but Will really f'd up by going back to his vehicle in a potential attempt to grab that weapon. Like someone said it's just terrible on both sides. Preventable if Hayes didn't follow him out of rage.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15639 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:51 pm to
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could only be charged with manslaughter the second time around.


So either way he is out of prison very soon
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8843 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:54 pm to
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I remember quickly just labeling him guilty, but Will really f'd up by going back to his vehicle in a potential attempt to grab that weapon


Last I checked big Will didn’t have rape warrants out for his arrest and was shot in the back with no weapon in his hand, so why did the Saints have a rapists name on their helmet and Lebron said we live in two different America’s after their ‘hero’ was shot by police in a similar situation??? Please explain this to me.....
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:58 pm to
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I remember LESTER EARL quickly just labeling him guilty,


FIFY
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
77619 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:10 pm to
He was a celebrity/sports hero
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42654 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:28 pm to
if both would have settled this the old fashioned way with fists than it would have saved two lives

one that died
and one that was sent to prison for life
I'd be shocked if they try the case again and he gets off, maybe a reduced sentence from life

over a small minor fender bender that Will Smith could have paid for out of pocket
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81830 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:46 pm to
Payton will probably lecture us on how nobody needs a gun in 2021 and leave it at that
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7964 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:49 pm to
It’s a sad situation all around. No one wins in this situation, but it was the right decision. If this wasn’t Will Smith and Sean wasn’t in the court room, the conviction likely doesn’t happen.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27072 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:31 pm to
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So either way he is out of prison very soon


Manslaughter carries up to forty, crime of violence time. And that's assuming he isn't bitchable.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28415 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:51 pm to
Good
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5711 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:52 pm to
I thought he was innocent then, I think he’s innocent now. Smith’s hot head friend got him killed.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:15 pm to
I recall Lester being extremely “Team Cardelle”

Proof positive that he only exists to annoy the shite out of everyone.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:24 pm to
Thank God they dropped this. Dude is innocent but his life is ruined in Louisiana now.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:07 am to
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I thought he was innocent then, I think he’s innocent now. Smith’s hot head friend got him killed.

Will Smith was a completely drunk jackass that night that started a bad chain of events, but he's not the one that got out of his car after running into the back of someone that night with his gun in his hand like Hayes and he didn't put 7 bullets in anyone's back or shoot their wife either. Hayes tried to claim that Smith was punching him, yet Hayes friend who was with him said he didn't Smith throw any punches. Hayes lost control though and messed up numerous lives.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:16 am to
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could only be charged with manslaughter the second time around.


So either way he is out of prison very soon

They only convicted him of manslaughter the 1st time around and he got 25 years.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22436 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:02 am to
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if both would have settled this the old fashioned way with fists than it would have saved two lives



Or go home and move on like anyone who isn’t a Neanderthal
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